Act.12 Teki - QUEEN METARIA - Official Discussion Thread

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Kerochan no Miko

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Who's afraid of the big blobby evil demon thing?



(Please keep this thread confined to discussion of the actual episode after it airs, since I need to sleep now and had to post it early.)
 

Memento

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As I feared, this was a bad episode. Beryl's death was rushed and stupid. (Attacking her necklace? Really?) And then the Senshi/Shittenou confrontation was also rushed and pointless, like the rest of that poorly thought out subplot. Really, this episode suffered from weird pacing throughout, along with wonky animation. No Jupiter transformation? Umm.... Okay then. And what happened to Motoki? Just...a mess.
 
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StarHealerTornado said:
As I feared, this was a bad episode. Beryl's death was rushed and stupid. (Attacking her necklace? Really?) And then the Senshi/Shittenou confrontation was also rushed and pointless, like the rest of that poorly thought out subplot. Really, this episode suffered from weird pacing throughout, along with wonky animation. No Jupiter transformation? Umm.... Okay then. And what happened to Motoki? Just...a mess.
You don't want Sailor Moon to stab her at her chest, do you?
It's just a way to tone down the violence.
 
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StarHealerTornado said:
As I feared, this was a bad episode. Beryl's death was rushed and stupid. (Attacking her necklace? Really?) And then the Senshi/Shittenou confrontation was also rushed and pointless, like the rest of that poorly thought out subplot. Really, this episode suffered from weird pacing throughout, along with wonky animation. No Jupiter transformation? Umm.... Okay then. And what happened to Motoki? Just...a mess.
At this point, it sounds like you're just hate-watching it. Take your negativity elsewhere.
 
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SmallLadySerenity said:
StarHealerTornado said:
As I feared, this was a bad episode. Beryl's death was rushed and stupid. (Attacking her necklace? Really?) And then the Senshi/Shittenou confrontation was also rushed and pointless, like the rest of that poorly thought out subplot. Really, this episode suffered from weird pacing throughout, along with wonky animation. No Jupiter transformation? Umm.... Okay then. And what happened to Motoki? Just...a mess.
At this point, it sounds like you're just hate-watching it. Take your negativity elsewhere.
I voted 5 stars.
And here is the result (from left to right: 5 stars -> 1 star).
 
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Should have waited later for those results. It's too early, and not everyone has voted.
 
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I have to say I was pretty disappointed with the episode too. I expected some amount of censorship on the part of Beryl, but not only did they change it to a silly necklace, they cut out what is arguably Venus's biggest scene in the series! Throw in the horrible toss away of the generals, and we're once again going back to the old anime's standard of nobody accomplishing anything but Usagi. Major disappointment. Not looking too forward to any other pointless changes to come. :x
 

Memento

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SmallLadySerenity said:
StarHealerTornado said:
As I feared, this was a bad episode. Beryl's death was rushed and stupid. (Attacking her necklace? Really?) And then the Senshi/Shittenou confrontation was also rushed and pointless, like the rest of that poorly thought out subplot. Really, this episode suffered from weird pacing throughout, along with wonky animation. No Jupiter transformation? Umm.... Okay then. And what happened to Motoki? Just...a mess.
At this point, it sounds like you're just hate-watching it. Take your negativity elsewhere.
Take YOUR negativity elsewhere. I'm not hate-watching SMC; I don't hate-watch anything. It's called being able to criticize stuff that is bad, a skill you might contemplate picking up. I love SMC, but this episode was B A D and I'm not gonna pretend like it wasn't. The first five episodes were great writing/plot-wise, but since then the writing has gotten a bit uneven and in this episode it reached new lows of terribleness.
 
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Sailor Minimoo said:
, and we're once again going back to the old anime's standard of nobody accomplishing anything but Usagi. Major
It was like that in the manga too. Which it's following.
 
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The inners score plenty of victories early on though, most of which are absent in this retelling. It's all the more upsetting in light of how well the Usagi/Mamoru scene was handled. Can't say I'm enjoying this retake. :(
 

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I liked it but somehow the animation was not fluid or something... :( The sub plot with the Shitennou was as I always suspected, lame... Would have been much more better to give them the dramatic death that they got in the manga...

I really hope the last episode of the season would be more dramatic... Even the music was not as great as usual.

I'm a big fan of Crystal but the last 2 episodes somehow disappointed me, the serie is too rushed. Please stop this non-sense one act = one episode... One act could be done in 2 episodes with a better development.

Somehow I miss some drama there...
 

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Sailor Minimoo said:
they cut out what is arguably Venus's biggest scene in the series!
And apparently a similar change happened in the La Reconquista musical so we can't blame Toei this time.
 
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Sailor Minimoo said:
The inners score plenty of victories early on though, most of which are absent in this retelling. It's all the more upsetting in light of how well the Usagi/Mamoru scene was handled. Can't say I'm enjoying this retake. :(
Crystal has covered a majority of their victories. The battles do follow the manga, except episode 6, that was added on, because there was no battle.
 
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haha!! everyone seems to hate this episode while I was shocked in the end and excited for next week ep!! I'm so glad they finally removed the shittenou and evil mamoru because its took forever and was very boring to watch, at least for me and I love the team working together to defeat beryl also beryls death. BUT the ENDING!! :shocked: :shocked:
 

meekxthree

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Okay so this is my first post here because I just really wanted to talk to people about this episode aha

I agree this episode felt somewhat rushed, but I enjoyed it. I'd much rather have an episode making me sit on the edge of my seat while consecutively gasping and crying constantly than be slow yet emotional.

I geniunely teared up when Beryl was talking about how she loved Endymion, which is weird because I remember thinking how creepy it was when I was watching PGSM. The Shittenou part annoys me but in a good way (I guess??). They just regained all their memories and now they're gone. Like no, you can't do that, they better give us some flashbacks of the whole ShittenouxSenshi thing or else I will be a sad moonie. The ending I don't even want to talk about like ugh. I physically can not wait for this next episode lol.

Overall the episode was a 5/5 for me. Recorded my reaction to watch myself and it's so funny I'm thinking of uploading it to my youtube it's literally gasps and tears the whole way through. :-P

In terms of the overall reboot I'm actually loving it sooo much. I understand it probably doesn't do justice to the manga which I've not read but it feels so much less cheesy and childish. I mean I miss filler episodes and just general friendship moments but with Crystal I know to always bring tissues. ALWAYS.
 

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SolidTitania said:
haha!! everyone seems to hate this episode while I was shocked in the end and excited for next week ep!! I'm so glad they finally removed the shittenou and evil mamoru because its took forever and was very boring to watch, at least for me and I love the team working together to defeat beryl also beryls death. BUT the ENDING!! :shocked: :shocked:
The ending was great sure. But the rest... The fight with the 4 generals and their deaths was boring as hell, no emotion at all. But Im still a huge fan of this reboot.
 
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Yamoon said:
SolidTitania said:
haha!! everyone seems to hate this episode while I was shocked in the end and excited for next week ep!! I'm so glad they finally removed the shittenou and evil mamoru because its took forever and was very boring to watch, at least for me and I love the team working together to defeat beryl also beryls death. BUT the ENDING!! :shocked: :shocked:
The ending was great sure. But the rest... The fight with the 4 generals and their deaths was boring as hell, no emotion at all.
i never liked the generals so they didnt matter to me and crystal fights is always lame so yeah!!
but i agree this was a damn usless subplot and dumb decision by the studio, i wish theyd never come back any sooner!! :D
 

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SolidTitania said:
Yamoon said:
SolidTitania said:
haha!! everyone seems to hate this episode while I was shocked in the end and excited for next week ep!! I'm so glad they finally removed the shittenou and evil mamoru because its took forever and was very boring to watch, at least for me and I love the team working together to defeat beryl also beryls death. BUT the ENDING!! :shocked: :shocked:
The ending was great sure. But the rest... The fight with the 4 generals and their deaths was boring as hell, no emotion at all.
Well i never liked the generals so they don't matter to me and crystal fights is always lame so yeah!!
Well that not the point :D the point is this "new" subplot has no sense at all and was useless from the beginning. But maybe Im talking too fast and will be a major point in the last episode... who knows...