Live Action or 2D?

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Do you think Sailor Moon works best in live action or 2D?

  • Live Action

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • 2D

    Votes: 15 75.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Neo Moonlight

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it needs an injection of humor that is a Western-style. The smart-aleck comments, the puns, the comedic putdowns. It doesn't have to be the "Marvel" way or a raunchy Deadpool-style knock on all things superheroic, but putting a tongue firmly into cheek has a way of selling the story to an audience.
This helps explain why I prefer dub over sub when I watch anime like 10,000x times more, since they tend to add these sorts of quips and banter in. I usually feel bored when watching a subbed show but then when I try out the dub I tend to think 'oh actually I do like this' lol.

Also in regards to Marvel, Guardians 2 and Thor 3 are probably my two favorites and those two are pretty much non stop jokes all the way through.

I'd love it if the Marvel studio took a crack at a PGSM of their own. I know I'd watch it! Whereas a "Hollywood" PGSM I would avoid like the plague lol. Probably would be the same level of awful as that horrific Avatar the Last Airbender movie which was an abomination in comparison to the TV series.

(And I love how Viz dub of Sailor Moon kept making fun of Mamoru's pants. It made me laugh every time XD)
 
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2D as the default style if you ask me however stuff like the musicals work well too
also note even something in live action can be cartoony if you have stuff like talking cats so don't expect citizen kane or the Dark Knight in terms of seriousness tone on the Live side lol
It doesn't matter if its 2D, CGI or live action. In the hands of a great visionary director and writer any adaptation will be great.

Now if these writers/directors have a misguided vision expect shows like Batwoman to fail. :googly: If they wanted a reboot sequel season they should have had the first Batwoman to have a 'Fight Club' season ending. :lol: #ItWasAllInHerHead
 

Slowpokeking

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My main problem with a live action version is the appearance of the girls - they have to either look nothing like the manga, or to wear ridiculous wigs. Then all the costumes and props look great in 2d, but in real life they would look weird and the weapons would look like toys. CGI Luna and Artemis might work, but you know they either look too uncanny valley like the new photorealistic Lion King or age super fast. Musicals work great because every musical relays on your suspention of disbelief, but when it comes to movies and tv shows, it is a bit different.
The girls look fine to me. It's the four kings look extremely weird and most of the monsters were meh.

Beryl's actress is quite beautiful, not sure why did they make such costume/makeup.
 

Slowpokeking

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Also Usagi's actress troubles me.

Sure, Usagi is not supposed to be the outstanding girl. But as Sailor Moon/Princess Serenity she needs to be very beautiful. So I'm not totally pleased with the cast since all of the Inner Four looks better than her. The best choice would be pick someone very beautiful but make her look average before transformation through makeup.
 

FloraKiraraHime

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PGSM was handled well with good writing by Yasuko Kobyashi who has good experience writing dramatic plots in tokusatsu. She was able to twist a well-known story and make it it's own while keeping elements to their roots or turning it up a few notches (ie: Princess Sailor Moon, the neutrality of the silver crystal, Sailor Venus being the lone wolf of the crew). If people can get over the cheesy Toei CGI, and pay attention to the plot they would probably understand why PGSM is considered one of the best Dark Kingdom adaptations.

Animation aside, the first arc of SMC would have worked well if they were more flexible with how to manage this adaptation but allow it to flow. 2 episodes covering a chapter could work in order for the characters to grow and show more personality. However, as we know, the series went down a deep slope plotwise by the last two or three episodes (i.e: Shittenou dying right after they were knocked out of their second brainwashing, Queen Beryl's death, Mamoru somehow having possession of the four stones, the 4 Inners completing each other's sentences).
That's exactly why I love the live action tokusatsu! It was a fantastic take on the Dark Kingdom arc.
 
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Neo Moonlight

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That's exactly why I love the live action tokusatsu! It was a fantastic take on the Dark Kingdom arc.
It was very, very good. The only thing I would change is Sailor Luna (No. Just no. Lol that should not have happened XD) and make it that they adapted the rest of the arcs too! :)
 
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Neo King Rose

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#27
It doesn't matter if its 2D, CGI or live action. In the hands of a great visionary director and writer any adaptation will be great.

Now if these writers/directors have a misguided vision expect shows like Batwoman to fail. :googly: If they wanted a reboot sequel season they should have had the first Batwoman to have a 'Fight Club' season ending. :lol: #ItWasAllInHerHead
yeah that's very true LOL
 

SILVER

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Sailor Moon has obviously been successful in 2D: the manga is a perennial best-seller all over the world and now on its fifth or sixth re-release, the '90s anime is/was an iconic smash hit that's probably the reason most of us are fans in the first place, and Crystal is a great way of reminding us how great the '90s anime was.

The SHADE
 

Rika-Chicchi

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Beryl's actress is quite beautiful
She's got a nice body too - in the latter part of her acting career, she starred in a number of (classy) erotic films besides playing Beryl in PGSM. lol

Also Usagi's actress troubles me.

Sure, Usagi is not supposed to be the outstanding girl. But as Sailor Moon/Princess Serenity she needs to be very beautiful. So I'm not totally pleased with the cast since all of the Inner Four looks better than her. The best choice would be pick someone very beautiful but make her look average before transformation through makeup.
The actress was personally picked by Takeuchi. lol
 
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LOL. I laughed at the :luna: plushie when it dropped on :usagi:. :quagmire:

And then there's that :ami: vs :rei: scene. Absolute telenovela guilty pleasure. :twistedevil:

Episode 0 had a lot of funny scenes. Like the burglar vs :minako: or the :usagi: and company against the jewel robbers.
 
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I feel like in the '90s anime, Usagi was often gratingly annoying or stupid, and in Crystal and the manga, she has a tendency to be wistful to the point of being dull (along with being almost absurdly all-powerful). In PGSM and the musicals, I think they struck a much better balance between the magical-guardian-princess, schoolgirl-in-love, and lovable-goofball sides of her character.
 

Slowpokeking

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She's got a nice body too - in the latter part of her acting career, she starred in a number of (classy) erotic films besides playing Beryl in PGSM. lol


The actress was personally picked by Takeuchi. lol
Yeah, she fits Usagi quite well. I just think it could be handled better in another way.
 
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Except that's not good in "in terms of Western humor " (More specifically, American humor since American humor is different than British humor and so forth). I mean there's plenty of humor in PGSM, but I thought it was the weakest part of the show because of the cultural dissonance. I mean, having the characters perform a quiz show in terms of exposition like in Episode 3 wasn't funny to me, just bizarre, much like Usagi repeating her "London" mantra. I mean if you're going to go over the top, then it either has to be all over the top or not at all. But if you're trying to be be silly in a mundane moment, but take a person in a terrible monster costume super-seriously, I'm sorry, but that does not work for me. Maintain the same level of irreverence throughout.
 
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Seira Hazuki

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Honestly, they should just hire whoever did the creative direction and photography for this collaboration because I feel like they could do a beautiful adaptation of Sailor Moon for a live action film. Not just the wig (which looks great), but also I love how the left image is a more loose take on the Sailor Uniform. If they were able to take the same creative liberties, and have the weapons be all silver like in some of the manga imagery, they could pull of a slightly more serious take.

 

FloraKiraraHime

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#38
I feel like in the '90s anime, Usagi was often gratingly annoying or stupid, and in Crystal and the manga, she has a tendency to be wistful to the point of being dull (along with being almost absurdly all-powerful). In PGSM and the musicals, I think they struck a much better balance between the magical-guardian-princess, schoolgirl-in-love, and lovable-goofball sides of her character.
There were scenes in the 90's anime where Usagi acted possesive of Mamoru throughout Super and SuperS, how it's played for laughs rubs me the wrong way. One example is the episode where she dressed as a ninja. I agree the manga Usagi is quite powerful as Sailor Cosmos. I like PGSM Usagi the best, she's bubbly and sweet.
 

Slowpokeking

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I feel like in the '90s anime, Usagi was often gratingly annoying or stupid, and in Crystal and the manga, she has a tendency to be wistful to the point of being dull (along with being almost absurdly all-powerful). In PGSM and the musicals, I think they struck a much better balance between the magical-guardian-princess, schoolgirl-in-love, and lovable-goofball sides of her character.
Usagi is lovely in the anime most of the time. She always give other ppl trust and care.
She acted goofy because there are a lot of daily stuff and you cannot let her outshine the others.
 

Slowpokeking

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Honestly, they should just hire whoever did the creative direction and photography for this collaboration because I feel like they could do a beautiful adaptation of Sailor Moon for a live action film. Not just the wig (which looks great), but also I love how the left image is a more loose take on the Sailor Uniform. If they were able to take the same creative liberties, and have the weapons be all silver like in some of the manga imagery, they could pull of a slightly more serious take.

Yeah I think the cast should be a very beautiful lady, then dress her as average girl before transformation.