Season 4 movies update: Sailor Moon Eternal - Delayed to 2021 (Part 1 on January 8th & Part 2 on February 11th)

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I'll be blunt, though this is my personal opinion, Chainon sounds terrible except for the opening instrumentation, chorus, and guitar solo. The rest of it sounds like folks having a random go at a karaoke bar.

New Moon grows on you but only the upbeat version. There's that one version that reminds me of that 20th anniversary version of Otome no Policy where the singer whispers everything.

If anything, the song Otome Sensou (or something pretty similar) should have been the opening for Crystal.
 

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Look, I agree on this part. I mean people are still saying VIZ blu rays/dvds for s 1-3 look perfectly ok, even though we have all seen how this shows look on mere dvd in Japan and Europe and it is obvious they completely butchered it. But saying you should stop loving something because it underpeferorms... I mean, who cares? Crystal has never been top of the top and some people love it. Why can't you just come into terms that it is not for you, go watch your 90s shows, read fanfics or whatever and let people that like it like it?
I think you don't understand me. I LOVE SAILOR MOON CRYSTAL / ETERNAL !!! But simply I am honest with what I see, and that I observe!

Sailor Moon Crystal / Eternal, the license is treated in a way that appeals to people who moan!

All these changes are there in order to attract people who complain! We don't change a production design along the way.

Sailor Moon Crystal was supposed to be a distant project from Sailor Moon (Series 90), finally, since season 3, Toei has done everything to copy the old series. Because people are complaining.
 

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they literally have the same costume
I'm talking about the wings. The wings in the 90 series, they were weird. It gave the impression of grandeur.

Compared to the size of Usagi, I find it impressive. Like how can a skinny girl like her take the weight of the wings?
Here I found the word: its wings give a feel of fabric in the 90 series and not a real pair of wings.

The wings we usually see were better.
 

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I agree with the Eternal costume on Crystal... it looks so much better because of the brighter colors. The 90's anime colors of the Eternal fuku turned the blue of it into almost black in the anime ( if you check the cels the blue is lighter more navy but then it looked so dark in motion), the pink was almost like Mar's red ( also checking the cels of the anime Sailor Moon color is fucsia, not Mar's red ).

http://www.rubberslug.com/user/6567b58a6bad44198dabe427e6fb0c39/150910-7995220-sm0477.jpg

At the end the Eternal fuku didnt match Sailor Moon colors at all and looked like a very SM dark version. Marco Albiero for the official pictures he made he put brighter tones on her eternal fuku and it looks so much better than the 90's scheme.



I dont like the manga color tones that it has in some ( tones change depending which one are you looking ) illustrations I gotta say tough... like this recent magazine cover of the 90s:

 
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I agree with the Eternal costume on Crystal... it looks so much better because of the brighter colors. The 90's anime colors of the Eternal fuku turned the blue of it into almost black in the anime ( if you check the cels the blue is lighter more navy but then it looked so dark in motion), the pink was almost like Mar's red ( also checking the cels of the anime Sailor Moon color is fucsia, not Mar's red ).

http://www.rubberslug.com/user/6567b58a6bad44198dabe427e6fb0c39/150910-7995220-sm0477.jpg

At the end the Eternal fuku didnt match Sailor Moon colors at all and looked like a very SM dark version. Marco Albiero for the official pictures he made he put brighter tones on her eternal fuku and it looks so much better than the 90's scheme.



I dont like the manga color tones that it has in some ( tones change depending which one are you looking ) illustrations I gotta say tough... like this recent magazine cover of the 90s:

When we finally compare 90 / manga and Eternal / Manga. The wings still don't really make a pair of wings. The feathers are missing as in the image below

Because the "Eternal" uniforms of the other senshis are quite successful.
 

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When we finally compare 90 / manga and Eternal / Manga. The wings still don't really make a pair of wings. The feathers are missing as in the image below

Because the "Eternal" uniforms of the other senshis are quite successful.
Well remember that Naoko was always very inconsistent with the wings. She drew ilustrations/scenes with feather wings, with " plastic " 90's wings and she even took the wings away in the manga ( I dont remember if there was a reason for that or she just got tired of drawing them ).

Of course I prefer feather wings since they look more natural and real and gives SM angel aesthetic but I dont have a big problem with the " plastic " wings.

In these illustrations she has 90's anime wings:








And then you have this:




Inconsistency at its finest lol.
 

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At least in the trailer she looks terrific
Do you saw the same post o.o? About what you said previously because the Facebook post I saw said something like taking the 90s like goddess mh and said he/she only saw bad comments about the movie @.@, the movie having hate without been released yet only because some numbers
 
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I agree with the Eternal costume on Crystal... it looks so much better because of the brighter colors. The 90's anime colors of the Eternal fuku turned the blue of it into almost black in the anime ( if you check the cels the blue is lighter more navy but then it looked so dark in motion), the pink was almost like Mar's red ( also checking the cels of the anime Sailor Moon color is fucsia, not Mar's red ).

http://www.rubberslug.com/user/6567b58a6bad44198dabe427e6fb0c39/150910-7995220-sm0477.jpg

At the end the Eternal fuku didnt match Sailor Moon colors at all and looked like a very SM dark version. Marco Albiero for the official pictures he made he put brighter tones on her eternal fuku and it looks so much better than the 90's scheme.

Marco Albiero's art used color schemes based off the shades used for the cels. And like you said, it wasn't supposed to look black and plain red, the scanners at the time just didn't pick up the colors right. The original shade of red used on Sailor Moon's ribbons also had a bad habit of turning plain red or even brown-ish in some episodes, now that I think about it.

Well remember that Naoko was always very inconsistent with the wings. She drew ilustrations/scenes with feather wings, with " plastic " 90's wings and she even took the wings away in the manga ( I dont remember if there was a reason for that or she just got tired of drawing them ).

Of course I prefer feather wings since they look more natural and real and gives SM angel aesthetic but I dont have a big problem with the " plastic " wings.

In these illustrations she has 90's anime wings:






And then you have this:


Inconsistency at its finest lol.
I think it has more to do with whether or not she wanted her to have her normal "fake" wings or actual angel wings for an image. She is totally inconsistent with her designs though. Besides that one fan-colored panel, look at the colors used on her outfit. She doesn't seem to know if she wants to give her red or pink or how dark she wants the shade of blue. I also distinctly remember seeing illustrations of ESM where she had a round choker and/or a gold heart in the middle. Is it really any wonder the 90's anime and even Crystal end up with different details when she constantly went around making these small changes? We should be praising Tadano, Itoh, and Tamegai with making them more consistent. :P
 
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Marco Albiero's art used color schemes based off the shades used for the cels. And like you said, it wasn't supposed to look black and plain red, the scanners at the time just didn't pick up the colors right. The original shade of red used on Sailor Moon's ribbons also had a bad habit of turning plain red or even brown-ish in some episodes, now that I think about it.
What if the person coloring the cels was wrong?

Because it also happens that Sailor Moon's boots change from red to another color (a little more towards pink).
 

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For me, I think the proportions of Eternal Sailor Moon's costume look a lot better in Crysternal than it did in the '90s anime. Everything looked just a smidge too big in the original anime, especially the bubble sleeves and wings, and while Tadano's take on the outfit doesn't look as delicate as it does in the manga, it's definitely a huge improvement.

It's nice that we have a full circle moment where Tadano got to design Sailor Moon's first and final forms... I wonder if she'll have the chance to design Sailor Cosmos.