Your reaction to finding out the truth about Zoisite

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May 26, 2012
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I never noticed anything as I watched the swedish dub but then some years later I got to learn how to access the Internet. There I quickly found Hitoshi Doi’s site. As I read the detailed summary of one of the rainbow crystal episodes I remember thinking ”lots of typos in this episode”. How it sank in that there wasn’t any misstake regarding ”her” gender I don’t remember any more. So I guess I wasn’t that shocked by the discovery.
 

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I think I always knew Zoisite was male, because I only started watching Sailor Moon during the S season. That made me look Sailor Moon up on the internet, and I learned everyone's real names and genders before learning that most of the names, and a few of the genders, had been changed.
 
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I never noticed anything as I watched the swedish dub but then some years later I got to learn how to access the Internet. There I quickly found Hitoshi Doi’s site. As I read the detailed summary of one of the rainbow crystal episodes I remember thinking ”lots of typos in this episode”. How it sank in that there wasn’t any misstake regarding ”her” gender I don’t remember any more. So I guess I wasn’t that shocked by the discovery.
The Swedish TV station tried to pass the homophobic censorship as supportive of the LGBT community, "because they couldn't show a gay character who was evil". :rofl:
 
Nov 8, 2018
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I watched the german dub and Zoicite was a woman here as well. I did like „her“ because she was kind of gender-bending, her masculine uniform but with flower petals when she appears/attacks. I also liked it that there was a female shitennou. When I heard the Zoicite was actually male, I was positively surprised how progressive the series was regarding lgbt representation but at the same time I realized that here is where the same repetitive formula starts: 4 inner senshi = 4 shitennou = 4 ayakashi sisters = witches 4/5(/6) = amazon quartet = 4 asteroid senshi...I blame the manga...(and that illustration senshixshitennou, i hate the concept of coupling them). So I think my favourite version is female Zoicite of the german dub, but I also like the japanese original.
 
Jun 30, 2010
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I firmly believed Zoycite was always female in the DiC dub, and I was definitely 100% stunned and in denial when I found out the truth.

Even though I went to Hitoshi Doi's site, I didn't find out Zoycite was once male there. I didn't really find out until either "Castle in the Sky" or Ken Arromdee's "Sailor Moon FAQ" and it was spelled out for me.

Even after finding out, it was really hard for me to see Zoycite as male even when re-watching the episodes, although this was largely due to Kirsten Bishop's performance. After all, this general had an unambiguously female coif with ringlet curls. There were a few shots where I could see a male bodyshape, but those were the exceptions. Some animators, like Ando, depicted everyone in a style where due to the simplification, it would be nearly impossible to tell Zoisite's gender based on an appearance alone. Other episodes (no, not just the infamous one) actually have Zoisite utilize a similar bodyshape to our heroines, and some shots...



...look no different than any other female character. It's not only the body language or even the secondary physical features like hair and eyelashes, but as small and slender as that hand is, it is to this day still hard for me to look at that and see a cisgendered male.

To me, it made more story sense that Zoycite was female. As a female counterpart to the Sailor Scouts, she was more effective than any of her other generals, including her lover. At the same time, she almost seemed to have a grudging respect for the Sailor Scouts as female warriors. If anything her two most bitter rivals (Nephlite and Tuxedo Mask) were male. Yet, she was also unrepentantly evil. Plus, I liked that as a girl even though she resorted to trickery and even whined a little, she not only fought against Tuxedo Mask, but did not fall in love with him (unlike even her boss).

However, as JunoDX mentioned, that all four of the generals were male just meant that there was a repetitive pattern to the villains, and Zoisite was a part of the model.
 
Sep 6, 2014
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^I will say Zoycite being the token female member of the team never felt odd or not right. Especially since I never considered the Four Generals to be male counterparts to the Scouts (The Negamoon sisters were the only group where it was obvious they were dark counterparts to the Sailor Scouts)

Zoycite being the token female never felt any weirder than Emerald being the token female for the Black Moon Clan (discounting the four sisters who were subordinates of a subordinate)


In the context of the dub it was always more weird to me in SuperS that they had one all female group and one two male one girl group.
 
Apr 20, 2012
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I first picked up on Zoycite possibly being male during the episode with the Rainbow Crystal holding priest. I noticed some discrepancies when comparing Zoycite to the other female villain designs on the show. Beryl and most of the MotD wear lipstick and tend to have fairly noticeable busts (due to size and/or cleavage), while Zoycite was flatchested and lacked lipstick. That's when I started to wonder if Zoisite was originally meant to be a guy. But being a kid, it was just a passing thought I forgot about a couple episodes later. It wasn't until I re-discovered Sailor Moon in middle school that I found out the truth, and was pleasantly surprised I was right all along. :lol:
 
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I first picked up on Zoycite possibly being male during the episode with the Rainbow Crystal holding priest. I noticed some discrepancies when comparing Zoycite to the other female villain designs on the show. Beryl and most of the MotD wear lipstick and tend to have fairly noticeable busts (due to size and/or cleavage), while Zoycite was flatchested and lacked lipstick. That's when I started to wonder if Zoisite was originally meant to be a guy. But being a kid, it was just a passing thought I forgot about a couple episodes later. It wasn't until I re-discovered Sailor Moon in middle school that I found out the truth, and was pleasantly surprised I was right all along. :lol:
Beryl and the female motd wore skin tight clothes. Zoycite wore a more modest uniform. Even setting aside being actually a male she would have a good reason to not appear busty.
 
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Beryl and the female motd wore skin tight clothes. Zoycite wore a more modest uniform. Even setting aside being actually a male she would have a good reason to not appear busty.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect her to look busty in a uniform like that. It's why I didn't think anything of it for the first few episodes. But then I noticed her side profile resembled male characters more than it did female ones. Which lead to me noticing how different she looked compared to all the other female villains.
 

julayla

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To be honest, after catching a brief glimpse of the TV series back when I was young, somewhere in 1995, before the days of Toonami when I saw a brief glimpse of Sailor Moon, I wanted to really badly research Sailor Moon and only had the Hitoshi Doi site at the time. Because back then, I thought Zoiscite was a transgender in the anime back then (which most of my family are not a fan of since everyone else thought they was just female due to the dub), but then I looked up Zoiscite, finding out that it was indeed a male and thought DIC having Zoiscite be a male pretending to be female with that voice was surprisingly getting crap past the radar.
 
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I remember Zoisite surprised me a little at the time when I found out, I was 8 years old and had only seen the DiC dub, I had no idea until I discovered the truth via the Internet. Maybe the flat chest should've tipped me off but you don't really think about things like that when you're 8 years old, or at least I didn't. Now Uranus and Neptune didn't surprise me in the least, probably because I'd already found out all about them thru the Internet before S even premiered in the US. Even if I didn't have the Internet I think I would've still seen thru these "cousins" as I was a little older and wiser by then.
 
#14
We had a Tagalog dub of the show before the original English one came out. Zoi-chan was male in that one, so the part about him being made female in the DIC dub was the surprise. Filipino fans knew the truth beforehand.
 
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