Are Luna and Artemis running a gang of magical child soldiers

[MariaTenebre]

Are Luna and Artemis really running a gang of child soldiers in a war against eldritch abominations and should they have tried to find adults who can fight these abominations instead (if there are any available)

Since there are so many threads of puritans having their periods on Usagi and Mamoru's age or Nephrite and Naru's age or Zoisite and Kunzite's age I would like to remind all of you. You are watching a show about child soldiers (even though they are teens) doing really no different then child and teen soldiers do all over the world except they have magic.

 

[Tsundereshipper]

Zoisite and Kunzite's age

? I have never seen anyone in the fandom ever take issue with this.

But to answer your question, technically yeah. That’s just the nature of the genre though, why there can’t be adult Fighting Magical Girls I’ll never know.

Much more concerning to me is Queen Serenity in the manga though, at least all the girls in the 90’s anime are in their teens save for Chibi-Usa and Hotaru, in the manga Queen Serenity was enlisting literal 5 year olds as seen with both the Inners in Dream and Pluto.

She would technically qualify as a war criminal if she weren’t the reigning ruler of the Galaxy. Between that and how she treated the Earth is why she always read as super shady to me.

 

[MariaTenebre]

? I have never seen anyone in the fandom ever take issue with this.

But to answer your question, technically yeah. That’s just the nature of the genre though, why there can’t be adult Fighting Magical Girls I’ll never know.

Much more concerning to me is Queen Serenity in the manga though, at least all the girls in the 90’s anime are in their teens save for Chibi-Usa and Hotaru, in the manga Queen Serenity was enlisting literal 5 year olds as seen with both the Inners in Dream and Pluto.

She would technically qualify as a war criminal if she weren’t the reigning ruler of the Galaxy. Between that and how she treated the Earth that’s why she always read as super shady to me.

Well for the 4 Inners they were basically enlisted to be Guardians and playmates of Princess Serenity so I see no issue with that. As for Sailor Pluto's young age it could be again that she was the only one who could guard the Space-Time Door even at the young age being the daughter of Chronos. Though where Chronos is at the time we really don't know.

Anyways my point remains child and teen super heroes have always existed so some Church Ladies need to stop whining about this like they need to stop whining about Usagi and Mamoru or Naru and Nephrite's ages. I am sick to my back teeth of these PC babies.

 

[Maraviollantes]

The term "soldier" implies being a member of a recognized army, and some form of wartime legitimacy for using violence. If I go outside and start randomly murdering people possessed by demons (because my cat told me so), nobody in the world will recognize me as a "soldier".

Usagi & friends basically use violence and murder to further their ideological and political goals, while not being recognized by anybody as a military or political organization, and having no legitimacy of any kind. "Domestic terrorists" would be a more accurate definition, I think?

Another possible designation is "destructive cult", since Luna deliberately indoctrinates members of her group to physically harm and murder other people to achieve her religious/political goals. With those goals being accepted by cult members without any critical analysis or debate. Which is exactly how destructive cults operate.

 

[MariaTenebre]

The term "soldier" implies being a member of a recognized army, and some form of wartime legitimacy for using violence. If I go outside and start randomly murdering people possessed by demons (because my cat told me so), nobody in the world will recognize me as a "soldier".

Usagi & friends basically use violence and murder to further their ideological and political goals, while not being recognized by anybody as a military or political organization, and having no legitimacy of any kind. "Domestic terrorists" would be a more accurate definition, I think?

Another possible designation is "destructive cult", since Luna deliberately indoctrinates members of her group to physically harm and murder other people to achieve her religious/political goals. With those goals being accepted by cult members without any critical analysis or debate. Which is exactly how destructive cults operate.

Well I would argue that Usagi and Her gang are recognized as soldiers by the Silver Millennium from back in the day and are a resurgence of this government and even eventually reestablishes it as Crystal Tokyo.

 

[Star Angel Haruki]

Being told to stand in front of a door for eternity when you're just a child is wild!!!

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

The term "soldier" implies being a member of a recognized army, and some form of wartime legitimacy for using violence. If I go outside and start randomly murdering people possessed by demons (because my cat told me so), nobody in the world will recognize me as a "soldier".

Usagi & friends basically use violence and murder to further their ideological and political goals, while not being recognized by anybody as a military or political organization, and having no legitimacy of any kind. "Domestic terrorists" would be a more accurate definition, I think?

Another possible designation is "destructive cult", since Luna deliberately indoctrinates members of her group to physically harm and murder other people to achieve her religious/political goals. With those goals being accepted by cult members without any critical analysis or debate. Which is exactly how destructive cults operate.

The script for a new Sailor Moon production should be based on such perspective, & it could be directed by directors like Oliver Stone or Sean Penn.

 

[Maraviollantes]

Well I would argue that Usagi and Her gang are recognized as soldiers by the Silver Millennium from back in the day and are a resurgence of this government and even eventually reestablishes it as Crystal Tokyo.

Silver Millennium cannot recognize or legitimize any "soldiers" fighting on its behalf due to the simple fact that it ceased to exist thousands years ago.

 

[Mystical Moonbow]

They pretty much are child soldiers. There’s even experience of them being soldiers in their past lives except for Usagi since she was a princess. That’s why it was harder for her to adjust to and accept the role than it was for others at first. When Usagi realized her friends and Mamoru would and could die for her sake, she realistically has a mental breakdown and gets depressed. It’s a lot to process and handle at her age or any age for that matter.

 

[MariaTenebre]

Silver Millennium cannot recognize or legitimize any "soldiers" fighting on its behalf due to the simple fact that it ceased to exist thousands years ago.

It can if it has government officials that will it to rise again. Political movements have lost only to come back later.

 

[MsImagination]

I don't understand why you consider anyone who doesn't agree with you as puritian.For the question yes and no.One this fantasy series so logic dosen't go there.There not fighting in a war.There only fighting if people are in danger.On the other hand it would be terrible and screw up .If we have the whole world being protected by teenagers.

 

[FloraKiraraHime]

I don't understand why you consider anyone who doesn't agree with you as puritian.

A puritan? Yeah, I don't understand calling someone who doesn't agree with others a puritan.

 

[Sabrblade]

If one doesn't like the term "child soldiers" one can always call them...

...

...

...

Spoiler: show

..."Teenagers with attitude!"

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Bandai execs would call them "toy soldiers."

 

[MariaTenebre]

LOL! Sabrblade my Sailor Moon fanfic is even crossed over with my Power Rangers fanfic series in a shared universe so I like that quote but yeah by this logic Power Rangers is a story about child soldiers.

Love that song by Martika Rika. Though the song was more about drug use then actual war. Martika also did a excellent Japanese version of the song too!

Martika - Toy Soldiers (Japanese Version) - YouTube

 

[Maraviollantes]

There not fighting in a war. There only fighting if people are in danger.

~ the favorite catch line of every psychopath military dictator throughout the history of humankind.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

Martika also did a excellent Japanese version of the song too!

Martika - Toy Soldiers (Japanese Version) - YouTube

She was a popular Western pop artist in Japan back then.

 

[MariaTenebre]

She was a popular Western pop artist in Japan back then.

She is one of my favorite singers. Plus since she is Cuban and speaks Spanish she also did a version in Spanish called Como un Juguete. I am not aware of any other language versions she di.

 

[Sabrblade]

but yeah by this logic Power Rangers is a story about child soldiers.

Sometimes. They were instead adults in several seasons, too.

In the most recent season, Dino Fury, only the Green Ranger was still in high school. The others were young adults.

 

[Rika-Chicchi]

There're countless anime & tokusatsu recruiting child soldiers over many decades &, hence, they're all guilty of such humanitarian crime, like Gatchaman, Combattler V, Voltes V...even PGSM, to name just a few, so their production companies like Toei should be ranked among organizations like the Vietcong, Khmer Rouge, those in Africa & Latin America, etc.