Do you think villains got redeemed too much sometimes?

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It was especially sad for Koan, since he made her believe strongly in something that wasn't even real and took advantage of her emotions for him. She deserves better. With Rubeus's character, he seems to be incapable of love at all from what he appears to be.
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Also iirc he basically encouraged her to go kill herself since the energy bomb was suppose to destroy everything within range including her.
 
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Also iirc he basically encouraged her to go kill herself since the energy bomb was suppose to destroy everything within range including her.
Yeah I remember that too. He deserved what he got from Esmeraude. I feel like Rubeus is very similar to Viluy by personality, in Sailor Moon S. They are both cold hearted and deserved to die. Viluy basically insulted and emotionally attacked Kaori for being back from the dead, and that her revival was a waste. That is just my opinion though, I could be totally wrong lol. Viluy was even cold towards Tomoe as well. In one of the scenes of episode 122 season 3, she was spiteful towards both of them by calling them idiots and they were just basically standing around.
 
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Yeah I remember that too. He deserved what he got from Esmeraude. I feel like Rubeus is very similar to Viluy by personality, in Sailor Moon S. They are both cold hearted and deserved to die. Viluy basically insulted and emotionally attacked Kaori for being back from the dead, and that her revival was a waste. That is just my opinion though, I could be totally wrong lol. Viluy was even cold towards Tomoe as well. In one of the scenes of episode 122 season 3, she was spiteful towards both of them by calling them idiots and they were just basically standing around.
But still they showed his last moment with fear and told us that he is still a human being while he deserves this.
 
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But still they showed his last moment with fear and told us that he is still a human being while he deserves this.
Yeah he was going to die. That doesn’t make a good person or worthy of redemption. He was a monster and was hoisted by his own petard.

Easily the second most evil character in R after Wiseman with Esmeraude as a somewhat distant 3rd.
 
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Yeah he was going to die. That doesn’t make a good person or worthy of redemption. He was a monster and was hoisted by his own petard.

Easily the second most evil character in R after Wiseman with Esmeraude as a somewhat distant 3rd.
He wasn't a good person or worthy of redemption, but he is still shown as a human being who would fear for death.

It was not to whitewash him, but let us know that human can do evil things like that. So we can't just think such thing would not happen to us, we need to be careful not to walk to the same path.
 
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So I decided to do a breakdown

Jadeite- Never redeemed
Nephrite- Redeemed but dies
Zoicite- Never redeemed
Kunzite- Never redeemed
Beryl- Never redeemed
Metaria- Never redeemed

Ail- Redeemed
En- Redeemed

Koan-redeemed
Berthier-redeemed
Petz- redeemed
Kalvarez- redeemed
Rubeus- never redeemed
Esmeraude- never redeemed
Safir- redeemed but dies
Demande- redeemed but dies
Wiseman- never redeemed

Dr. Tomoe- redeemed
Kaolinite- never redeemed
Eudial- never redeemed
Mimete- never redeemed
Tellu- never redeemed
Viluy- never redeemed
Cyphrin and Ptiol- never redeemed
Mistress 9- never redeemed
Pharaoh 90-never redeemed

Nehelenia-redeemed
Zirconia-never redeemed
Fish Eye- redeemed
Hawk Eye- redeemed
Tiger Eye-redeemed
Cere Cere- redeemed
Jun Jun-redeemed
Vesa Vesa- redeemed
Palla Palla-redeemed

Galaxia-redeemed
Iron Mouse-never redeemed
Tin Cat- never redeemed
Aluminum Siren-never redeemed
Lead Crow-never redeemed

Fiore- redeemed but dies (?)
Kesenian blossom-never redeemed
Princess Snow Kaguya- never redeemed
Fairy boy 1*- never redeemed
Fairy boy 2*- never redeemed
Fairy boy 3*- never redeemed
Badiane- never redeemed

Villains who die evil- 56. 52 percent

Villains reformed and move on- 34.78 percent

Villains who die after turning good- 8.7 percent


* I don’t remember the names of the 3 Fairy boys who work for Badiane and I’m not about to learn. Also I know they didn’t “die” but turn into birds. I’m still counting it as a death since they reverted to these forms after defeat

I’m also obviously not counting foot soldiers, monsters of the day, or brainwashed characters like Endymion and Black Lady