Though admittedly there are double standards for well LGBT people in general when it comes to the far religious right and the woke left and honestly both are offensive, unequal and even homophobic.
You know what? For once I'll agree with you. There definitely seems to be a tendency in some far-left extremist circles to try to deny any outright differences between the sexes/genders or the different sexual orientations, which I would argue
is unhealthy and toxic.
Relatively recently I got into a debate online with an "anti" (for those not in the know, "anti" refers to those in fandom who shame & exclude anyone who ships anything "problematic.") contesting the validity of placing same sex adult incestous ships in the same category as opposite sex incest - which
is objectively and inherently bad and unnatural. I asked that if they value consent and not hurting of outside parties above all else, on whether determining whether something is ethical or not, then what's wrong with consenting incestuous couples of the same sex who can never have children, and therefore aren't hurting anybody with their activities?
The funny thing is, they themselves agreed with my initial stance about incest on what makes it so problematic and that the only thing really inherently "wrong" with incest is the fact that it's usually not consensual in real life and the inbreeding factor.
So what was their reason for still categorizing same sex consenting adult incestous ships and real life couples as bad then?
Their response: "ITS FEtISHinG GaY cOuPLEs! LGBT people need to be held to
exactly the same standards as straight people, no exceptions! We've fought blood, sweat and tears for
equal rights not
different rights!!!1"
They said my advocating for only same sex incest based on the fact that they can't inbreed was holding queer people to a different standard and apparently "that's bad." To them Queers need to be treated
exactly the same as cishets, even in stuff that wouldn't apply to them (like incest)
But... LGBT people
are different from cishets in alot of ways, and there's no shame in acknowledging that. People don't have to be
exactly the same to acknowledge that they deserve full rights and equal respect.
But nooo according to this dolt, my attitude that incest shouldn't even be taboo for same sex couples made me literally Hitler and akin to denying gay couples the right to marry. ...Lemme get this straight, I'm somehow setting LGBT rights back 50 years by arguing in favor of them... getting... more rights? Make it make sense!
All because I'm objective enough in acknowledging biological reality. And yes, some orientations and races
should be held to different standards based on their objective individual circumstances. Would they say it's racist then to give African Americans affirmative action? After all, that's not holding them to the "same standards" as Whites. Of course not because we as a culture acknowledge that different, objective life circumstances calls for different standards and that's okay.
Honestly the kind of extremist anti logic above really reminds me of toxic TERF rhetoric - as that's a typical TERF mindset to have to ignore biological reality and personal circumstances and argue that "men and women have to be exactly the same, no exceptions or ITS LITERUHLLY OPPRESHUN~"
And I say this as a pretty far-left political leftist myself, but some leftist circles really are moving toward too much of a TERF mentality for my liking.
So yeah Maria, despite your daily eye-roll inducing "woke boogyman" rants, just this once I'll give it to you and agree that the whole mentality that "Being the Exact Same = Equal" that some leftists espouse despite the cognitive dissonance involved, is toxic.
