How would Manga/Crystal/PGSM Rei have treated Yuichiro?

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We all know how drastically different the 90's anime version of Rei was in comparison to her manga counterpart, being far more feisty, cosmopolitan, and keenly-interested in (good-looking) boys. Whereas the original manga version of Rei was far more reserved, traditional, and completely disinterested in boys of any kind due to her strong distrust in them. And this manga characterization of Rei would later be reflected, to varying degrees, in both Crystal and PGSM.

Likewise, we know that her relationship with the 90's anime-exclusive character Yuichiro was a bit complicated. He mostly liked her at first because of how pretty she was, but this was before he got to know her better and basically came to worship the ground she walked on, whether out of affection, fear/intimidation/respect, professional loyalty, or a combination of these. Rei, however, never really returned his affections for her, or at least did a good job at hiding any feelings she might have had for him that went beyond platonic ones. On the surface, she mostly saw him as a bumbling goof who, supposedly, didn't interest her romantically. But over time, she did come to recognize him as genuinely nice guy with a good heart, and did show respect towards him at points. Though, that didn't stop her from still making him do things for her like cleaning the Hikawa Shrine from top to bottom or making him carry her load of shopping bags for her. Not helping Yuichiro's case was his status as a comic relief character who was primarily used as a foil for other characters to play off of. Thus, most of any hardship Yuichiro endured, whether from Rei or anyone else, was usually played for laughs with Yuichiro as the butt of the joke. But even then, at the end of the day, Rei and Yuichiro at least did uphold a genuine form of respect towards each other, even if it didn't really go any further than that.

With all that said, how do you suppose a version of Rei based more on the original Manga/Crystal/PGSM version would have treated Yuichiro? Imagine that the original manga version of the story (or a new version based on it) did the Yuichiro story thing that the 90's anime did, with him coming to live/work at the Hikawa Shrine as an extra workhand aiming to better himself, and with him similarly developing a crush on Rei like he did in the 90's anime. How do you think the more man-distrusting Manga/Crystal/PGSM version of Rei might have interacted with Yuichiro in comparison to how the 90's anime version of Rei interacted with him?

Would she be much meaner/colder/stricter towards him? Would she eventually warm up to him after getting to know him? Would such "warming up to him" lead to a friendship? To something more? Something less? Would she be constantly trying to get him to leave the Hikawa Shrine? Wold she eventually accept him as a acceptable addition to the shrine's residents/staff members? Any other possibilities?
 
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Sabrblade said:
we know that her relationship with the 90's anime-exclusive character Yuichiro was a bit complicated. He mostly liked her at first because of how pretty she was, but this was before he got to know her better and basically came to worship the ground she walked on, whether out of affection, fear/intimidation/respect, professional loyalty, or a combination of these. Rei, however, never really returned his affections for her, or at least did a good job at hiding any feelings she might have had for him
actually she did return his affections she just wouldn't admit it outright which was seen in S when Yuuichirou left the shrine and Rei chased him down only to witness him get his pure heart stolen after saving him she stayed with him even letting him rest on her lap until he regained consciousness then she helped him get back to the shrine.

Rei has shown on multiple occasions she has feelings for Yuuichirou including when she was killed at the end of the first season when she referred to him as "Her" Yuuichirou and as for how Manga Rei and PGSM Rei would treat him id say it would be close to the same except she would probably be a little less strict than 90s Rei
 
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Instead of looking for things to correct in the preliminary text, why not actually... answer the question? :o
 
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Sabrblade said:
Instead of looking for things to correct in the preliminary text, why not actually... answer the question? :o
He kinda did...

My answer is different though. I think she wouldn't give him the time of day and would be very cold, though not necessarily antagonistic. He'd probably also lose interest in her due to a consistent lack of acknowledgment. He strikes me as someone who would rather be abused than ignored. All-in-all it probably wouldn't have been a terribly interesting interaction.

I highly support their ship in 90's canon but if he were transposed into any other continuity I don't see much potential. He'd have to compete with Minako, lol.
 

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Sabrblade said:
Instead of looking for things to correct in the preliminary text, why not actually... answer the question? :o
He did

Rei has shown on multiple occasions she has feelings for Yuuichirou including when she was killed at the end of the first season when she referred to him as "Her" Yuuichirou and as for how Manga Rei and PGSM Rei would treat him id say it would close to the same except she would probably be a little less strict than 90s Rei
 

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She wouldn't be as strict as old anime!Rei, but on the other hand she wouldn't grow to love him, at first because she doesn't trust men that much and later, after he proved himself, because there's Minako.
And considering that even in the old anime there are hints about Minako being rather close to Rei...
I mean, I doubt that Rei would ever consider to let anyone but Usagi and Mina do the below to her.
 
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lord Martiya said:
She wouldn't be as strict as old anime!Rei, but on the other hand she wouldn't grow to love him, at first because she doesn't trust men that much and later, after he proved himself, because there's Minako.
And considering that even in the old anime there are hints about Minako being rather close to Rei...
I mean, I doubt that Rei would ever consider to let anyone but Usagi and Mina do the below to her.
is that photo from the anime? if so which episode?
 
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lord Martiya said:
She wouldn't be as strict as old anime!Rei, but on the other hand she wouldn't grow to love him, at first because she doesn't trust men that much and later, after he proved himself, because there's Minako.
And considering that even in the old anime there are hints about Minako being rather close to Rei...
I mean, I doubt that Rei would ever consider to let anyone but Usagi and Mina do the below to her.
This episode from Sailor Stars had the best and most dangerous phage of this season. Sailor Gamer was pretty awesome. I used to always think Mercury was good at everything....she made it to the top before even Minako, the gamer...lol

I wonder who they were cosplaying as. Amy looked like Athena or something.
 
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lord Martiya said:
She wouldn't be as strict as old anime!Rei, but on the other hand she wouldn't grow to love him, at first because she doesn't trust men that much and later, after he proved himself, because there's Minako.
And considering that even in the old anime there are hints about Minako being rather close to Rei...
I mean, I doubt that Rei would ever consider to let anyone but Usagi and Mina do the below to her.
This episode from Sailor Stars had the best and most dangerous phage of this season. Sailor Gamer was pretty awesome. I used to always think Mercury was good at everything....she made it to the top before even Minako, the gamer...lol

I wonder who they were cosplaying as. Amy looked like Athena or something.
Mina-Chan looks like Utena to me
 

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Me personally I would hope that Yuuichirou would be in the manga, Crystal, PGSM enough to get her out of her hatred of men and the two would find love. On the 90s anime though on my personal headcanon I always thought that while Rei didn't have a hatred of men in this version that due to her father and his treatment of her mother which I always thought was the same in this version while at the same time she sought love to kind of fill the void in her life due to her father she also was afraid of finding true love which is why she always went after men who she knew subconsciously she didn't have a chance with like Mamoru. I think that Yuuichirou would help her find love in the 90s anime and if he existed in these other canons I think that he would be a good match with her. Yuuichirou is by far my favorite match for Rei.
 
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Me personally I would hope that Yuuichirou would be in the manga, Crystal, PGSM enough to get her out of her hatred of men and the two would find love. On the 90s anime though on my personal headcanon I always thought that while Rei didn't have a hatred of men in this version that due to her father and his treatment of her mother which I always thought was the same in this version while at the same time she sought love to kind of fill the void in her life due to her father she also was afraid of finding true love which is why she always went after men who she knew subconsciously she didn't have a chance with like Mamoru. I think that Yuuichirou would help her find love in the 90s anime and if he existed in these other canons I think that he would be a good match with her. Yuuichirou is by far my favorite match for Rei.
well said and I agree completely also I think Yuuichirou is my favorite Anime Only character too (if you don't count Rei's Grandfather and I don't as he's in the manga albeit briefly)
 
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MariaTenebre said:
Me personally I would hope that Yuuichirou would be in the manga, Crystal, PGSM enough to get her out of her hatred of men and the two would find love.
While I'm sure many would disagree with that notion and admire Manga/Crystal/PGSM Rei's womanly independence, I myself wouldn't mind Rei getting out of her hatred of men like you say, but I don't necessarily feel she'd need to hook up with anyone. One thing about Rei's feeling towards men that Casablanca Memory added an extra layer to was a more noble reason for her wanting to stay single: In that story, she revealed that, rather than merely despising all men inherently (as she'd often present herself as doing whenever the subject of men came up), she confessed that she doesn't want to get into a relationship with anyone because she knows she'd end up trying to change the person she'd be in a relationship with into being a different kind of person, one better suited to her likes and standards but also different from how that person would have originally been. She doesn't want to subject anyone to that kind change as it would only suit her own selfishness, a selfishness that she recognizes within herself and which she doesn't wish to impose upon anyone, but which she knows she would impose upon any suitor of hers because she knows herself too well. That she's willing to forgo involving herself in any relationships, sacrificing any chance she might have of happiness in said relationships, all to avoid pressing the influence that she knows she would end up pressing upon any suitor of hers, because she knows said influence would have a negative impact upon said suitor, is pretty noble IMHO.

That said, however, I do agree in the idea of a Manga/Crystal/PGSM version Yuichiro possibly opening that version of Rei up to being on friendlier terms with men in general, with his good nature possibly showing her the better side of male humanity. I could see her warming up to him enough to accept him, at the very least, as a decent coworker of the Hikawa Shrine, or at the very most, as a friend. But anything more than that, I dunno.

But like yourself, I'm all for 90's Anime Rei and Yuichiro as a couple, even if they'd have to work on some things first.
 

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Sabrblade said:
One thing about Rei's feeling towards men that Casablanca Memory added an extra layer to was a more noble reason for her wanting to stay single: In that story, she revealed that, rather than merely despising all men inherently (as she'd often present herself as doing whenever the subject of men came up), she confessed that she doesn't want to get into a relationship with anyone because she knows she'd end up trying to change the person she'd be in a relationship with into being a different kind of person, one better suited to her likes and standards but also different from how that person would have originally been. She doesn't want to subject anyone to that kind change as it would only suit her own selfishness, a selfishness that she recognizes within herself and which she doesn't wish to impose upon anyone, but which she knows she would impose upon any suitor of hers because she knows herself too well. That she's willing to forgo involving herself in any relationships, sacrificing any chance she might have of happiness in said relationships, all to avoid pressing the influence that she knows she would end up pressing upon any suitor of hers, because she knows said influence would have a negative impact upon said suitor, is pretty noble IMHO.
That would explain the implied hookup with Minako in the manga: she's not going to change for anyone nor demand Rei does. Rather, she'd teach her not to change them for selfishness' sake.
 
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Manga/Crystal Rei would be very polite to him—as she is very polite to everyone—, but at the same time she would feel indifferent towards him. Rei is very focused on her spirituality and mission as a senshi.

Of all the senshi, the only one who could befriend Yuichiro or potentially have romantic feelings for him is Mako. Mako not only befriended Anasuma, but also revealed her identity to him. I can see she doing the same to Yuichiro.
 
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I don’t know where people got the idea that Rei hates men. Not trusting men is not the same as hating them. The way I perceive Rei is as an extremely mature, polite, and well-mannered shrine maiden. If a man got lost and asked her for directions, she would very politely help him. This does not mean that she would trust or fall in love with him, but she would help him. As for the 90’s anime, I think the 90’s anime distorted the character completely.
 
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I don’t know where people got the idea that Rei hates men. Not trusting men is not the same as hating them. The way I perceive Rei is as an extremely mature, polite, and well-mannered shrine maiden. If a man got lost and asked her for directions, she would very politely help him. This does not mean that she would trust or fall in love with him, but she would help him. As for the 90’s anime, I think the 90’s anime distorted the character completely.
The very idea of manga/PGSM/Crystal Rei's supposed hatred for men confuses me too. I *do* like the 90's anime but making her (Rei) boy crazy is also confusing. It's poor writing to have all the five Inner Soldiers to all want a boyfriend and pursue relationships. Each girl should have own goal and motivation for the future. I want to ask people where they get the idea of manga/PGSM/Crystal Rei hating boys/men from. Is it a translation error? That could be the most the likely scenario. I concur that Rei's distrust of men is not the same as her hating them and wishing for their deaths. The only man she hates is her father, a high class politician. She somewhat tolerates her grandfather.
 
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