Moon Princess

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Mahal

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#21
But well in the Anime Venus is saying: No i am not the Princess.

I just wanted say this... wouldnt it be much cooler if they would know that venus isnt the princess, so they would look for her...and then the love between mamoru and usagi makes her appearing for the other guys...hm ^^v


uh again poor english *blush* -.-
 

Surly Bob

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Mar 4, 2004
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#22
Mahal said:
But well in the Anime Venus is saying: No i am not the Princess.

I just wanted say this... wouldnt it be much cooler if they would know that venus isnt the princess, so they would look for her...and then the love between mamoru and usagi makes her appearing for the other guys...hm ^^v


uh again poor english *blush* -.-
I actually like it better this way, since Mamoru and Usagi fall in love before they figure out the whole "we were lovers in a past life" thing.
 

Mahal

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Feb 25, 2004
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#23
they shall not know it but it get anyhow on my nerves when venus is playing the princess...

hm...i think even if they would know it, wouldnt it be funny...i think they would be really ashamed...ah...i dont know how I would act like but i think I would blush the whole time rofl
 
Dec 14, 2003
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#24
Why the princess issues?

More and more I notice that people are really against the idea of the Princess having her hair down, and they also seem to really hate the dress. I was wondering why her (potential) appearance has rubbed so many people the wrong way--is having her hair down really so obtrusive to the plot?
 

Palador

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Jan 10, 2004
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#27
Hmmm...I wonder...

I bet Venus really is the princess, and that she has all of her powers awakened.

And then, when Jupiter has her full powers awakened, they'll heal Ami, and they go skipping merrily into the sunset until the next youma strikes.
 

Aila

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Feb 12, 2004
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#28
The Princess' dress is as much of a trademark as the odango. It's splashed all over everything to do with Sailor Moon, anime, manga, and musical wise. I was rather peeved as well when I saw those dream things with Mamoru, and the dress and hair was NOT what it was supposed to be. But then maybe if Mamoru saw the odango hair do... well, he'd be kind of stupid not to think Sailor Moon's resembled it. The anime and manga were always kind of streetchy with how obvious things were to the characters. I'm hoping that they decided not to use the correct dress because it wasn't done yet or something... also, I'm hoping they completely lose that tiara.

I think they're going about the whole Venus/Princess thing perfectly. This is pretty much exactly what happened in the manga, minus the whole tumor in the head thing. Sailor V shows up, turns into Sailor Venus, but with the cresent on her forhead, and she's introduced to the group has the princess untill the real princess is strong enough to protect herself and fight back on her own. I highly doubt that Venus IS the princess because 1) Everyone knows moon is the princess, and 2, she's Sailor VENUS.

It'll also be intresting to see if LA's Minako will pull a 180 in personality after the first season like she does in the manga and anime.

One thing that puzzle's me though is Venus declaring to Mars that Mars is the leader. Venus was the designated leader in the manga, and that was the main reason why she was woken first and had the job of getting everyone together. Makes me wonder what exactly is going to happen to Venus' status when Moon is revealed to be the princess.

Heh, I think I'm ranting now but... I haven't really seen anyone expression concern over Queen Selenity/Serenity/whatever name you go by. Anyone else thinks/hopes she'll make an appearence?

If they don't put Shibby in that hot prince of Earth armor, I'm going to bitterly dissapointed.
 

Elasaid Aiden

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Jan 29, 2004
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#29
Aila said:
The Princess' dress is as much of a trademark as the odango. It's splashed all over everything to do with Sailor Moon, anime, manga, and musical wise. I was rather peeved as well when I saw those dream things with Mamoru, and the dress and hair was NOT what it was supposed to be.
I'd like to go on thinking that the dress looks weird not because they designed a doofy dress, but because Mamoru's memories are still a little sketchy. He may just not remember what sort of clothes she wore and his subconcious just inserted something. The princess dress was sush a trademark for all the Moon royal ladies, I think to switch to something else so late in the game would just be silly.
 
Feb 9, 2004
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#30
Oh, I posted this somewhere already but I can't wait to see Ikuko in her queen get-up! It's going to be hilarious to see her acting all queen-like when she's got freakin cornrows and is talking to invisible people about omelettes. (sigh) I wish my mom was that cool...

I'm crossing my fingers for blond odangos and a new dress! They might just spring a new dress, just to add to the WOW factor. Hence, they put a not so great looking dress in the dream to foil the actual revealing... DOI! *Crosses fingers anyway*
 

Guardian4

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Oct 7, 2003
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#31
Ikuko in her queen get-up? :? Why would she do that unless the actress herself was also playing Queen Serenity? As far as I thought, I didn't think that Ikuko was the reincarnation of Queen Serenity.
 
Feb 9, 2004
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#32
Hmmm you know, that didn't even cross my mind! A new actress to play Queen Serenity?? I hope not... because I'm banking on seeing Ikuko as the queen! I guess I just assumed it would be her. Who else would it be? I hope not someone new because that would take away from Ikuko being as cool a mom as she is.

Plus that whole bit from act 10 when Usagi cried, it would just be SWWEET if Ikuko got to play the queen too!

Yay! This is my 100th post and now I'm waxing! Yee haw!
 

Malachite82

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Nov 21, 2003
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#33
uncchristine99 said:
Hmmm you know, that didn't even cross my mind! A new actress to play Queen Serenity?? I hope not... because I'm banking on seeing Ikuko as the queen! I guess I just assumed it would be her. Who else would it be? I hope not someone new because that would take away from Ikuko being as cool a mom as she is.

Plus that whole bit from act 10 when Usagi cried, it would just be SWWEET if Ikuko got to play the queen too!

Yay! This is my 100th post and now I'm waxing! Yee haw!
I would assume that they would have another actress play Queen Serenity. I don't think Ikuko is the reincarnated form of Serenity since the queen actually died on the moon.

Besides if it were Ikuko, then that whole scene with Usagi crying about her mother not being her "real" mother would not make sense...
 
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#34
Malachite82 said:
uncchristine99 said:
Who else would it be? I hope not someone new because that would take away from Ikuko being as cool a mom as she is.

Plus that whole bit from act 10 when Usagi cried, it would just be SWWEET if Ikuko got to play the queen too!
I would assume that they would have another actress play Queen Serenity. I don't think Ikuko is the reincarnated form of Serenity since the queen actually died on the moon.

Besides if it were Ikuko, then that whole scene with Usagi crying about her mother not being her "real" mother would not make sense...
Doesn't it? Because that's what I meant... it would be a really happy moment for Usagi if she sees that Queen Serenity looks A LOT (is) like Ikuko. Hence, she's happy because her Moon mama looks just like her earth mama!
 

Elasaid Aiden

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Jan 29, 2004
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#35
There never was any mention of who Princess Serenity's father was, that I ever knew of. Did anyone else ever wonder about that?

In the PGSM series do they know if the princess is supposed to be the princess of the Moon kingdom yet, or do they just know they're a princess someplace. I'd think all the cresent moons everywhere and the existance of a Sailor Moon would give them a clue... but hey, where's the fun in that!
 

Palador

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Jan 10, 2004
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#36
Aila said:
I think they're going about the whole Venus/Princess thing perfectly. This is pretty much exactly what happened in the manga, minus the whole tumor in the head thing. Sailor V shows up, turns into Sailor Venus, but with the cresent on her forhead, and she's introduced to the group has the princess untill the real princess is strong enough to protect herself and fight back on her own. I highly doubt that Venus IS the princess because 1) Everyone knows moon is the princess, and 2, she's Sailor VENUS.

It'll also be intresting to see if LA's Minako will pull a 180 in personality after the first season like she does in the manga and anime.

One thing that puzzle's me though is Venus declaring to Mars that Mars is the leader. Venus was the designated leader in the manga, and that was the main reason why she was woken first and had the job of getting everyone together. Makes me wonder what exactly is going to happen to Venus' status when Moon is revealed to be the princess.
Hmmm...everyone "knows" that moon is the princess. I wonder about that. I mean, we've seen many things that haven't exactly been conventional. For example, Moon getting the moon stick early, Hina, Ami turning evil. This never happened in the anime or the manga, although I will admit that I haven't seen the new revisions of the manga.

Truth be told, I'm not so certain about the truth of wether or not the Sailor Moon is the Princess.

On a side note, does anyone else find it odd that no one uses the term "Moon Princess"? Just "Princess"?

:P Pac Man FEVER!!!~ P-:
 

Malachite82

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Nov 21, 2003
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#37
Palador said:
Aila said:
I think they're going about the whole Venus/Princess thing perfectly. This is pretty much exactly what happened in the manga, minus the whole tumor in the head thing. Sailor V shows up, turns into Sailor Venus, but with the cresent on her forhead, and she's introduced to the group has the princess untill the real princess is strong enough to protect herself and fight back on her own. I highly doubt that Venus IS the princess because 1) Everyone knows moon is the princess, and 2, she's Sailor VENUS.

It'll also be intresting to see if LA's Minako will pull a 180 in personality after the first season like she does in the manga and anime.

One thing that puzzle's me though is Venus declaring to Mars that Mars is the leader. Venus was the designated leader in the manga, and that was the main reason why she was woken first and had the job of getting everyone together. Makes me wonder what exactly is going to happen to Venus' status when Moon is revealed to be the princess.
Hmmm...everyone "knows" that moon is the princess. I wonder about that. I mean, we've seen many things that haven't exactly been conventional. For example, Moon getting the moon stick early, Hina, Ami turning evil. This never happened in the anime or the manga, although I will admit that I haven't seen the new revisions of the manga.

Truth be told, I'm not so certain about the truth of wether or not the Sailor Moon is the Princess.

On a side note, does anyone else find it odd that no one uses the term "Moon Princess"? Just "Princess"?

:P Pac Man FEVER!!!~ P-:

Those are rather subplots invented by the writers which really aren't as important as the history of the moon kingdom plot. Sailor Moon is obviously the princess because of the many "hints" the series has thrown at us. Some recent hints:

Kunzite's doubts about Venus being the princess.
Mars' doubts about Venus being the princess.

Surely these doubts would influence you to have doubts as well...

You're probably right that they haven't mentioned that it was the Moon Princess because if the Dark Kingdom knew of the Moon Princess, then the Dark Kingdom would definitely target Sailor Moon. I think everyone just uses "princess" to let the Dark Kingdom believe Venus as the princess.

EDIT: I actually rewatched Act 12 where Artemis introduces Venus and he said, "From the Moon Kingdom, Princess of the Silver Millenium, heir to the Mystical Silver Crystal..."

You can interpret that anyway you want... :)
 

Palador

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Jan 10, 2004
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#38
Malachite82 said:
Palador said:
Aila said:
I think they're going about the whole Venus/Princess thing perfectly. This is pretty much exactly what happened in the manga, minus the whole tumor in the head thing. Sailor V shows up, turns into Sailor Venus, but with the cresent on her forhead, and she's introduced to the group has the princess untill the real princess is strong enough to protect herself and fight back on her own. I highly doubt that Venus IS the princess because 1) Everyone knows moon is the princess, and 2, she's Sailor VENUS.

It'll also be intresting to see if LA's Minako will pull a 180 in personality after the first season like she does in the manga and anime.

One thing that puzzle's me though is Venus declaring to Mars that Mars is the leader. Venus was the designated leader in the manga, and that was the main reason why she was woken first and had the job of getting everyone together. Makes me wonder what exactly is going to happen to Venus' status when Moon is revealed to be the princess.
Hmmm...everyone "knows" that moon is the princess. I wonder about that. I mean, we've seen many things that haven't exactly been conventional. For example, Moon getting the moon stick early, Hina, Ami turning evil. This never happened in the anime or the manga, although I will admit that I haven't seen the new revisions of the manga.

Truth be told, I'm not so certain about the truth of wether or not the Sailor Moon is the Princess.

On a side note, does anyone else find it odd that no one uses the term "Moon Princess"? Just "Princess"?

:P Pac Man FEVER!!!~ P-:

Those are rather subplots invented by the writers which really aren't as important as the history of the moon kingdom plot. Sailor Moon is obviously the princess because of the many "hints" the series has thrown at us. Some recent hints:

Kunzite's doubts about Venus being the princess.
Mars' doubts about Venus being the princess.

Surely these doubts would influence you to have doubts as well...

You're probably right that they haven't mentioned that it was the Moon Princess because if the Dark Kingdom knew of the Moon Princess, then the Dark Kingdom would definitely target Sailor Moon. I think everyone just uses "princess" to let the Dark Kingdom believe Venus as the princess.

EDIT: I actually rewatched Act 12 where Artemis introduces Venus and he said, "From the Moon Kingdom, Princess of the Silver Millenium, heir to the Mystical Silver Crystal..."

You can interpret that anyway you want... :)
Like I said, I still have my doubts that Sailor Moon is the Princess. I won't deny the possibility, but I won't also deny the possibility that Venus is the Princess also. In fact, the latest episode actually strengthens the case that Venus is the Princess.

Also, I would hardly call Mercury going Dark a minor "sub-plot". But I just use that as evidence that the show may not be going according to manga or previous anime. That things may be significantly different.

And characters having doubts might be the writer's way of playing with us. They might be just teasing us because we assume that Moon is the Princess.

We'll see what happens in the next few episodes. The true Princess's revealing, assuming that the Princess hasn't already been revealed, might be many episodes away.

And, as a side note, wasn't Venus part of the Moon Kingdom. Interpret that any way you want. :)

Pac Man Fever! WAKKA! WAKKA! :P ....... P-:
 

Malachite82

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Nov 21, 2003
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#39
Palador said:
Like I said, I still have my doubts that Sailor Moon is the Princess. I won't deny the possibility, but I won't also deny the possibility that Venus is the Princess also. In fact, the latest episode actually strengthens the case that Venus is the Princess.

Also, I would hardly call Mercury going Dark a minor "sub-plot". But I just use that as evidence that the show may not be going according to manga or previous anime. That things may be significantly different.

And characters having doubts might be the writer's way of playing with us. They might be just teasing us because we assume that Moon is the Princess.

We'll see what happens in the next few episodes. The true Princess's revealing, assuming that the Princess hasn't already been revealed, might be many episodes away.

And, as a side note, wasn't Venus part of the Moon Kingdom. Interpret that any way you want. :)

Pac Man Fever! WAKKA! WAKKA! :P ....... P-:
Mercury turning evil is a subplot, similar to when Endymion was turning evil. Of course there are differences, between manga, anime, and PGSM, but the writers know that they wouldn't stray away from the core of the series which is the Moon Kingdom and its history: Prince Endymion and Princess Serenity.

How does the last episode convince you that Venus is the princess?? The whole point of Kunzite's plot is to reveal the actual princess, because even he doesn't believe Venus is the princess.

What you said about the character having doubts...The writers wants us especially new viewers to believe Venus is the princess, but the writers obviously gave us hints that she's not. In Act 22, Sailormoon's true power was almost revealed. Because most of us know Sailormoon's the real princess, that scene was meant to tease us...

The next episode would surely reinforce the belief that Sailormoon is the Princess: she gets closer with Tuxedo Kamen/Endymion. Also you'd think if Venus were the princess, he'd interact more with Venus, don't ya think?

And of course Venus was part of the Moon Kingdom. I'm just saying that Artemis announces the title "Princess of the Silver Millenium" instead of "Princess of the Moon" so Nephrite wouldn't be suspicious. It's interesting that he still believes that Venus is the princess, but Kunzite doesn't....

If you were part of the Dark Kingdom, who would you go after to find the princess and the Silver Crystal: Venus or Moon?
 

denelson83

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Sep 29, 2003
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#40
uncchristine99 said:
I hope not... because I'm banking on seeing Ikuko as the queen!
I'm not. I do believe that Tsukino Ikuko and Queen Serenity are two totally different characters. This belief is reflected in my code system as well. Tsukino Ikuko is "I" and Queen Serenity is "Q". And no character can have more than one code in my system.

Okay, that's enough about that...