PGSM Sailor Moon Re-Release?

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napy666

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I have heard and only seen clips of the PGSM Sailor Moon series, and was wondering since VizMedia has the rights to Sailor Moon will it be re-released along with everything else? If not, where can I watch this series, I tried seeing it online, but the fan subtitled versions were never correct or actuate enough. And I don't understand Japanese so I can't watch it that way either haha.
 

JayD22460

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How do you know the fansubs are inaccurate/incorrect if you don't speak Japanese?

Watch the fansubs. Go for Miss Dream's version or the new Sea of Serenity fansubs, though they're not done yet.

TV-Nihon also fansubbed the series back in the day, but it does have one or two glaring errors (though it's possible they might have redone some of the translations since then).

Come on.
 

Bag of Magic Food

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Yeah, if you watch three different fansubs, then you can accept whatever the majority of them say on each line!

Viz Media is only known to have licensed Sailor Moon animation for now.
 

JayD22460

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Bag of Magic Food said:
Yeah, if you watch three different fansubs, then you can accept whatever the majority of them say on each line!
I was only explaining which fansub groups have done or are doing PGSM. I didn't tell the OP to watch all three versions...
 
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napy666 said:
I have heard and only seen clips of the PGSM Sailor Moon series, and was wondering since VizMedia has the rights to Sailor Moon will it be re-released along with everything else?
Viz only has the anime rights, meaning the 90's anime, movies, specials, and Crystal. The tokusatsu has different rights altogether.

John said:
Watch the fansubs. Go for Miss Dream's version or the new Sea of Serenity fansubs, though they're not done yet.
Wait, there's a third set of PGSM fansubs out there?

John said:
TV-Nihon also fansubbed the series back in the day, but it does have one or two glaring errors (though it's possible they might have redone some of the translations since then).
They did. They re-subbed the first 24 episodes back in 2013.
 

Neon Genesis

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John said:
How do you know the fansubs are inaccurate/incorrect if you don't speak Japanese?

Watch the fansubs. Go for Miss Dream's version or the new Sea of Serenity fansubs, though they're not done yet.

TV-Nihon also fansubbed the series back in the day, but it does have one or two glaring errors (though it's possible they might have redone some of the translations since then).

Come on.
I might not know Japanese but as someone who is an English major, I can tell you that the serious grammar errors TV Nihon PGSM had were atrocious and annoyed me to no end. I was really grateful to find out about the Miss Dream fansubs because they just seem more professionally done all together. It also kept annoying me how the TV Nihon fansubs always kept changing their translation for the theme song, it seemed like. So I recommend the Miss Dream fansubs the most. It's disappointing because TV Nihon's fansubs for Super Sentai were nowhere near as bad as their PGSM fansubs, so I don't know why they were so lazy about PGSM. The Miss Dream fansubs are also based on the DVDs while the TV Nihon ones are TV rips so Miss Dream will give you better video quality and you won't have that annoying timer in the way. As for the possibility of PGSM being released over here, the Viz staff seem to be pretty big fans of Seramyu, so they do seem aware other versions of Sailor Moon exist out there, so I'm hoping they're at least trying to get the other adaptations, but we'll just have to wait and see. Even if it was like a cheap sub only DVD release, I would totally buy it. Has PGSM been released on Blu Ray in Japan?
 

meekxthree

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I speak Japanese and Miss Dream's subs are fine?? A few lines have been changed a bit, but that's to make it sound less awkward. Sometimes Japanese just doesn't translate into flowing English sentences. Miss Dream did a really superb job imo.
 
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Neon Genesis said:
It also kept annoying me how the TV Nihon fansubs always kept changing their translation for the theme song, it seemed like. So I recommend the Miss Dream fansubs the most. It's disappointing because TV Nihon's fansubs for Super Sentai were nowhere near as bad as their PGSM fansubs, so I don't know why they were so lazy about PGSM. The Miss Dream fansubs are also based on the DVDs while the TV Nihon ones are TV rips so Miss Dream will give you better video quality and you won't have that annoying timer in the way.
TV-Nihon resubbed the first 24 episodes using the DVDs and refined their scripts for those episodes.
 

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Neon Genesis said:
It's disappointing because TV Nihon's fansubs for Super Sentai were nowhere near as bad as their PGSM fansubs, so I don't know why they were so lazy about PGSM.
Their Super Sentai subs still have some problems which is why some people have switched over to Over-Time for the most recent shows and the older shows they also subbed. The only time I had a real problem with Nihon's subs was with Magiranger.

Has PGSM been released on Blu Ray in Japan?
No, the last time the show got any kind of release was the Super Special DVD-BOX from back in 2011.
 
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Miss Dream fansubs are not great either, lot fan complain about translation issues. Infact what I heard tv Nihon ad more accurate fansubs. Here s even one post about it below.
http://louchan.tumblr.com/post/79800942 ... y-guardian
That being said,i'll go with Sea of Serenity . There still working on it,but they seem to be better translator's. They have the show download for HD,and are up to episode 29. Since PGSM isn't license,and it s not going to be any time soon. Downloading why illegal,is the only way to get the series.
 

JayD22460

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napy666 said:
I found the Miss Dream's website, and I want to download the series, but notice its bunched in a torrent file, isn't downloading torrents illegal?
You want to watch PGSM legally? Watch it on TV (it's not even airing in Japan anymore) or buy the DVDs (which are region 2 and don't come with subtitles).

If you want to watch PGSM with English subtitles, it will technically be illegal no matter HOW you watch it -- streaming or downloading, even if you use a "direct download" and not a torrent.

If someone posts a Sailor Moon screenshot here and you click to save it to your computer, that is also just as illegal.

The new generation doesn't understand that the struggle is real. :o Back in my day, I had to watch Sailor Stars fansubbed on VHS tapes, grumble grumble...
 

meekxthree

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If you don't want to risk it don't risk it. Simple as that. Fact is, many people torrent and many people have downloaded Miss Dream's fan subs with no problem. But if you don't want to because you think you'll get arrested, don't. Easy solution.
 

JayD22460

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You don't get arrested for downloading torrents. The cops are not going to show up at ANYONE'S door and arrest someone for torrenting. The primary reason is because it's a violation of copyright law, not criminal law -- but it's also because if the cops show up at someone's house because someone was torrenting, who do they arrest? How do they determine which person at the house was torrenting? They can't.

In my entire life, I have never had any issues with torrents whatsoever -- probably because I don't seed, which sort of defeats the purpose of torrenting, but it helps. What usually happens in some cases is you get a "cease and desist" letter from your Internet provider. They basically say, "hey, we see you're uploading a lot, which means you're torrenting, so please stop or else we'll shut off your Internet." Most people get a few warning letters before it happens. Like I said, though: me personally, I have never gotten this kind of letter.

When torrenting, I advise lowering the upload rate and not seeding. It's generally frowned upon, but that's the best way to do it if you really don't want to risk anything (though I've only adopted this policy recently and again, nothing has happened to me).

When people get "caught" for torrenting, it's usually because they're downloading Hollywood movies as they're released. I don't think anyone will "catch" you torrenting PGSM, and even if they did...it's an unlicensed property that you cannot legally obtain in your country or with subtitles. There's nobody in this country who will sue you for it (which is what happens: you might get sued but you WILL NOT GET ARRESTED, at least I'm pretty sure). And even the suits get dropped, like Funimation's suit, because they realized they can't sue thousands of individuals over torrenting a One Piece film.

You sound very young or very uneducated about what actually happens when people torrent, and what happens when people get "caught" torrenting. It also seems like you weren't expecting this kind of answer. It is illegal for any of us to watch PGSM with English subtitles, just like it was illegal for many of us to own VHS fansubs of Sailor Moon back in the day. If you don't want to download torrents, you don't have to, but know that you will have a hard time locating these files otherwise.

Disclaimer: don't quote me on any of this. I'm not a lawyer and this should not be construed as legal advice. You most likely won't get into any trouble for downloading from a torrent, but your ISP might send you a letter asking you to stop.
 
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PGSM is also over ten years old,hasn't been released in Japan in years. Also its unlicensed foriegn propety.(Unless Viz get s it,there no way it 'll come to the Usa) There for no way for the creators,or anyone to sue you for it.




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napy666

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John said:
You don't get arrested for downloading torrents. The cops are not going to show up at ANYONE'S door and arrest someone for torrenting. The primary reason is because it's a violation of copyright law, not criminal law -- but it's also because if the cops show up at someone's house because someone was torrenting, who do they arrest? How do they determine which person at the house was torrenting? They can't.

In my entire life, I have never had any issues with torrents whatsoever -- probably because I don't seed, which sort of defeats the purpose of torrenting, but it helps. What usually happens in some cases is you get a "cease and desist" letter from your Internet provider. They basically say, "hey, we see you're uploading a lot, which means you're torrenting, so please stop or else we'll shut off your Internet." Most people get a few warning letters before it happens. Like I said, though: me personally, I have never gotten this kind of letter.

When torrenting, I advise lowering the upload rate and not seeding. It's generally frowned upon, but that's the best way to do it if you really don't want to risk anything (though I've only adopted this policy recently and again, nothing has happened to me).

When people get "caught" for torrenting, it's usually because they're downloading Hollywood movies as they're released. I don't think anyone will "catch" you torrenting PGSM, and even if they did...it's an unlicensed property that you cannot legally obtain in your country or with subtitles. There's nobody in this country who will sue you for it (which is what happens: you might get sued but you WILL NOT GET ARRESTED, at least I'm pretty sure). And even the suits get dropped, like Funimation's suit, because they realized they can't sue thousands of individuals over torrenting a One Piece film.

You sound very young or very uneducated about what actually happens when people torrent, and what happens when people get "caught" torrenting. It also seems like you weren't expecting this kind of answer. It is illegal for any of us to watch PGSM with English subtitles, just like it was illegal for many of us to own VHS fansubs of Sailor Moon back in the day. If you don't want to download torrents, you don't have to, but know that you will have a hard time locating these files otherwise.

Disclaimer: don't quote me on any of this. I'm not a lawyer and this should not be construed as legal advice. You most likely won't get into any trouble for downloading from a torrent, but your ISP might send you a letter asking you to stop.
How do you lower the upload rate and not seed?
 

Clow

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It happened... to someone who knew someone who knew someone I went to college with.

He was all alone in his house, and then heard someone knocking at his door:

FBI agent:

" Sir, I am from the FBI, and I am representing the interests of TOEI animation. According to our investigation, you have been using torrents to download episodes of the show 'Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon.'"

BROKEN COLLEGE STUDENT:

"...but."

FBI AGENT:

"See this document? Your Internet provider was forced to reveal us your IP address. The address confirms that you were downloading 'Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon." Not only will we confiscate your computer, we will also take you with us... you are under arrest."

BROKEN COLLEGE STUDENT (while being handcuffed):

"... but, please, the show is not even licensed..."

FBI AGENT (shouting):

"You have the right to stay in silence, Sir, and I advise you to speak only in the presence of your lawyer..."

There was no time for a trial. The guy was put in the same cell as some of the most dangerous individuals of the country. He didn't survive his first night in jail.

All because of this:



and, of course, this is a story I made up P-:

Honestly, though, I would be surprised if PGSM got an official release in North America. I simply don't see that happening. Ever.