They are celebrating Megumi Hayashibara’s anniversary, right? I can read her name there..
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I disagree, when they are apart they have personality and individuality. The Dark Kingdom and Black Moon intro acts allow us to see a bit of their private lives (maybe except for Minako, for whom the plot always take precedence), and then in the Dream intro acts/Eternal part 1 we get to explore their aspirations and hopes one by one, they're all unique. The real issue is that when they're together they revert to a hive mind where they're Guardians first and persons last, and outside of those acts I just mentioned they tend to be together all the time and it's easy to forget we've seen them as individuals.
I love Classic, and the final episodes are as good as Sailor Moon gets, but I think it isn't the best. To me, the season loses points because of the meandering pace of the Jadeite episodes, the complete lack of plot advancement until the last part, Venus showing up too late for us to get to know her as well as the rest and for her to fully integrate into the group, and the total lack of backstory for the villains. I think both parts of R did it best, though again, Classic finale on its own stands unmatched by anything else.
I agree with your thoughts on S... personally, it's not my favorite.
That comment made me think of something, and it's a strange rabbit hole to go down in, but how would star signs work for an alien being? If they're not born on Earth, the star signs they could get assigned would be totally different.
I love Classic, and the final episodes are as good as Sailor Moon gets, but I think it isn't the best. To me, the season loses points because of the meandering pace of the Jadeite episodes, the complete lack of plot advancement until the last part, Venus showing up too late for us to get to know her as well as the rest and for her to fully integrate into the group, and the total lack of backstory for the villains. I think both parts of R did it best, though again, Classic finale on its own stands unmatched by anything else.
I agree with your thoughts on S... personally, it's not my favorite.
That comment made me think of something, and it's a strange rabbit hole to go down in, but how would star signs work for an alien being? If they're not born on Earth, the star signs they could get assigned would be totally different.
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My favorite seasons are Classic and R. I really like the way these seasons really develop the characters and their relationships.
I really like S and the conflict the Outers bring to the story. However, I feel the MOTW issue really started to be noticeable in this season.
That's a real issue in the manga. We didn't see the Senshis developing a friendship.
Honestly, I suspect I wouldn't feel so much about the Stars ending in the manga if the anime didn't develop the friendship.
That said, I think the romance between Mamoru and Usagi is better developed in the manga. The manga really focus on that aspect.
I really like S and the conflict the Outers bring to the story. However, I feel the MOTW issue really started to be noticeable in this season.
That's a real issue in the manga. We didn't see the Senshis developing a friendship.
Honestly, I suspect I wouldn't feel so much about the Stars ending in the manga if the anime didn't develop the friendship.
That said, I think the romance between Mamoru and Usagi is better developed in the manga. The manga really focus on that aspect.
My favorite overall seasons in terms of the entire package, but most especially story are Classic and S. I love R and it’s my 3rd favorite season overall but only because of it’s excellent villians and the Makai Tree arc. It’s overall story/plot and presentation is one of the worst, especially compared to it’s manga counterpart, it has a weak finale and weak justification reasoning for Chibi-Usa to become Black Lady, the pointless and nonsensical Break-Up arc, and Pluto really getting the shaft. And I actually think the girls get more shafted to the side then people think, there’s a lack of the usual spotlight episodes for the Inners outside of the Makai Tree, with only Ami getting two, Minako getting one whole one to herself, Minako and Mako having to share one, and Rei getting exactly none. Instead of giving us a decent number of spotlight episodes to further develop our girls which every season has, the Black Moon portion of R would rather waste our time with innane filler episodes like Artemis’s adventures at the Zoo or that infamous Dinasour Beach episode.
The only thing it does well besides the villians is that it’s format isn’t as formulaic yet, Usagi and Chibi-Usa’s relationship is well-developed, the theming is strong (but that’s typical of every Ikuhara directed season) Crystal Tokyo is actually given an explanation for how/why it came into being, and the Inners actually stick around and are involved compared to the manga. It’s worse in every other respect though when it comes to plot and lore, and even how well it treats the Inners compared to other seasons that aren’t SuperS and Stars. (Yet even they both had a decent number of spotlight episodes)
This part alone is why I can’t in good conscious say Classic treated the Inners the best, outside of her backstory episode Venus got shafted the hardest.
Actually changing Rei's personality is the best decision they made in the 90's anime. Her relationship with Usagi is full of colors. Obviously their relationship was intended for comedic relief which gave the anime layers and layers of personality. If they didn't change her personality, we will see crystal rei.
I don't think it's that bad. If you ask me, the manga lore is miles ahead, but nothing is gained by pitting them against one another. They replaced it with interesting dynamics and Takeuchi-esque vagueness like the big freeze that is very interesting to think about, so I appreciate it. Lore-wise, I think it's still the best 90s season with a slight edge over Classic because everyone gets more developed backstories.
R also balances the monster-of-the-day format and plot progression better than the other seasons. Classic meanders too much but benefits from mini arcs and character introductions for plot progression, and R maintains the balance Classic achieves near its end, which sadly goes out the window from S onwards. The cast was still manageable even with the addition of Chibiusa, once the Outers come in that balance is also thrown off. It's not perfect, but I believe it's the best one from that perspective.
R also balances the monster-of-the-day format and plot progression better than the other seasons. Classic meanders too much but benefits from mini arcs and character introductions for plot progression, and R maintains the balance Classic achieves near its end, which sadly goes out the window from S onwards. The cast was still manageable even with the addition of Chibiusa, once the Outers come in that balance is also thrown off. It's not perfect, but I believe it's the best one from that perspective.
Really have to disagree with the lore part, at least for the Black Moon portion of R. While it’s nice that the 90’s anime gives us an actual explanation for how Crystal Tokyo came to be (even though it should be obvious why it was instituted in the manga as well - the Silver Crystal’s immortality granting powers were a game changer) everything else in the lore department of R is simply dreadful, even when compared to it’s far superior manga counterpart I actually take the opposite view of you and think it’s some of the worst that the 90’s anime done.
First off we get absolutely no explanation on the origins of Wiseman/Phantom when all the other seasonal “final bosses” at least had that much. In R it really does feel like he’s only here to be the final boss and little else - who he is and where he comes from are all completely tossed aside. (they don’t even bother giving us a short throwaway line clarifying something, anything!) He is the very definition of “villian who’s only evil for the sake of being evil and comes out of nowhere.” He’s just completely disconnected and unimportant to even the seasonal plot and themes being set up, (love and the future) the central conflict could and should’ve just remained on the legitimate grievances the BMC had with CT - in that maybe it was a misunderstanding all along or NQS being forced to admit to her errors in how she handled the situation and the utopian future we get a glimpse of isn’t as perfect as we thought - (in fact this would’ve been a perfect opportunity to deconstruct the very notion of a perfect/utopian fairytale like future, much like Classic before it deconstructed the idea of being a Magical Girl and having a fairytale-like past) but nope! We needed an evil nebulous boogeyman behind the scenes to be the real source of the season’s conflict, and unlike every season before or after since this nefarious eldritch mastermind wasn’t even well-explained. (nor was he used as a clearly metaphorical device the way Chaos was used in Stars) Just some random eldritch that popped up completely out of the blue with no context given.
But what’s even more egregious of a sin to me is that 90’s BMC’s background is so effing vague and glossed over with no attempt of an explanation given (much like Wiseman’s origins) that it unintentionally makes 90’s anime NQS come off as a racist dictator. Considering this is a show aimed at children and Sailor Moon is framed as a good role model who kids are meant to look up to, having your main lead look racist of all things with the show never actually going out of it’s way to condemn this behavior (much less address it or even clarify that that’s not what it was about) and even outright glorifying our redeemed villains getting cleansed of their powers being portrayed as “the right choice in the end” is not just bad writing on a lore level, it’s an actively offensive and dangerous messaging being sent out to our most young and impressionable of viewers. (May I remind literal preschoolers were watching this show!) And to think this could’ve all been avoided if the 90’s anime simply took the time to actually clarify why the BMC’s ancestors rose up against CT in the first place or what the “cleansing” was even supposed to be about. Instead we get stuck with a vaguely prejudiced if not outright racist message being conveyed and our bad guys (pre-Wiseman) looking more like the good guys and our heroes the villians!
I’m all for injecting more morally grey villians and conflicts but this was not the way to go about it…
At least the anime’s lack of lore in all the other seasons - while bad writing - was inoffensive at best, here the lack of lore not only hurts the plot but manages to be offensive to boot!
Yeah this is what I meant when I said R also gets points for not adhering to a strict formula, it’s pacing might actually be the best from that perspective.
First off we get absolutely no explanation on the origins of Wiseman/Phantom when all the other seasonal “final bosses” at least had that much. In R it really does feel like he’s only here to be the final boss and little else - who he is and where he comes from are all completely tossed aside. (they don’t even bother giving us a short throwaway line clarifying something, anything!) He is the very definition of “villian who’s only evil for the sake of being evil and comes out of nowhere.” He’s just completely disconnected and unimportant to even the seasonal plot and themes being set up, (love and the future) the central conflict could and should’ve just remained on the legitimate grievances the BMC had with CT - in that maybe it was a misunderstanding all along or NQS being forced to admit to her errors in how she handled the situation and the utopian future we get a glimpse of isn’t as perfect as we thought - (in fact this would’ve been a perfect opportunity to deconstruct the very notion of a perfect/utopian fairytale like future, much like Classic before it deconstructed the idea of being a Magical Girl and having a fairytale-like past) but nope! We needed an evil nebulous boogeyman behind the scenes to be the real source of the season’s conflict, and unlike every season before or after since this nefarious eldritch mastermind wasn’t even well-explained. (nor was he used as a clearly metaphorical device the way Chaos was used in Stars) Just some random eldritch that popped up completely out of the blue with no context given.
But what’s even more egregious of a sin to me is that 90’s BMC’s background is so effing vague and glossed over with no attempt of an explanation given (much like Wiseman’s origins) that it unintentionally makes 90’s anime NQS come off as a racist dictator. Considering this is a show aimed at children and Sailor Moon is framed as a good role model who kids are meant to look up to, having your main lead look racist of all things with the show never actually going out of it’s way to condemn this behavior (much less address it or even clarify that that’s not what it was about) and even outright glorifying our redeemed villains getting cleansed of their powers being portrayed as “the right choice in the end” is not just bad writing on a lore level, it’s an actively offensive and dangerous messaging being sent out to our most young and impressionable of viewers. (May I remind literal preschoolers were watching this show!) And to think this could’ve all been avoided if the 90’s anime simply took the time to actually clarify why the BMC’s ancestors rose up against CT in the first place or what the “cleansing” was even supposed to be about. Instead we get stuck with a vaguely prejudiced if not outright racist message being conveyed and our bad guys (pre-Wiseman) looking more like the good guys and our heroes the villians!
I’m all for injecting more morally grey villians and conflicts but this was not the way to go about it…
At least the anime’s lack of lore in all the other seasons - while bad writing - was inoffensive at best, here the lack of lore not only hurts the plot but manages to be offensive to boot!
Yeah this is what I meant when I said R also gets points for not adhering to a strict formula, it’s pacing might actually be the best from that perspective.
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I suspect they're vague because they don't want to sound especially racist. That's why they've never directly mentioned the BMC's ancestors were humans (althought it's obvious).
Most of the "racist" problems with BMC's ancestors are from the manga. Honestly, the manga could be more racist than the anime, since the resolution is destroying the planet.
In the anime, the final message was still communication and trying to understand each other. Not to mention that the anime makes BMC more sympathetic.
Most of the "racist" problems with BMC's ancestors are from the manga. Honestly, the manga could be more racist than the anime, since the resolution is destroying the planet.
In the anime, the final message was still communication and trying to understand each other. Not to mention that the anime makes BMC more sympathetic.
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There is nothing in the black moon arc manga that could be consider racist.The black moon clan was just a death cult being tempted and used by Wiseman.They lived in Crystal Tokyo and hate the lovegenity of mankind.
Death Phantom was banish after trying to attacked Neo queen Serenity and the kingdom.
Death Phantom was banish after trying to attacked Neo queen Serenity and the kingdom.
Having checked out the most recent trailer, I'm still loving Galaxia's voice actor/seiyuu. The more I hear her, the more awesome I think she is. The 90s Galaxia was voiced by a powerhouse name in the industry, Mitsuko Horie (Goranger!), and it was likewise amazing. But this version seems to suggest that Galaxia really is just like Usagi, if Usagi were a sociopath lol. There is that sickly sweet high-pitched psychopathy in her voice, like the poor girl in the anime classroom who got bullied and then decided to take out the entire school in a blaze of destruction. And is she posing for an attack with that weird mandala-esque background??
I mean, the Black Moon ancestors still escaped from the planet to avoid the extreme longevity. I don't think this is so different to escaping from the "cleansing" in the anime.
If I'm not mistaken, it's mentioned the current Black Moon clan are still the descendants of the humans who escaped.
It's true the manga portray the longevity a something pretty good, but the anime also portray the "cleansing" as something pretty good.
So, I don't know how one version could be considered racist and the other not.
If I'm not mistaken, it's mentioned the current Black Moon clan are still the descendants of the humans who escaped.
It's true the manga portray the longevity a something pretty good, but the anime also portray the "cleansing" as something pretty good.
So, I don't know how one version could be considered racist and the other not.
Your mistaken they were no ancestors in the manga.The black moon clan consisted of Prince Demonde, Saphire, Rubeus and Esmerold and her goons.With the spectra sisters.They lived in Crystal Tokyo, before being tempted by Wiseman to come.
The only person was banish was Death Phantom .It was only the anime they were the descendants of humans who were banish.Before wise man they were just cult like regular citizens.
The only person was banish was Death Phantom .It was only the anime they were the descendants of humans who were banish.Before wise man they were just cult like regular citizens.