Season 4 movies update: Sailor Moon Eternal - Coming in 2020

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I have some Japanese friends, and they even don't know what is Sailor Moon Crystal. On youtube channels, we can see Japanese people express their amazement that there are much more foreign fans in other countries.
Quite sad, but doesn‘t surprise me. Marketing for SMC was not very active and since the anime, especially s1-2 was not good, people didn‘t spread the word about it. With theatrical movies, this might be different, if Toei advertises them properly online, in print, social media and public space. And oh, with a trailer that is a trailer.

Do you guys think we‘ll get now in march a proper trailer or more a teaser trailer? What else can we expect?

Many people praise the new screenwriter. What should I watch to get an idea of his work?
 

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Quite sad, but doesn‘t surprise me. Marketing for SMC was not very active and since the anime, especially s1-2 was not good, people didn‘t spread the word about it. With theatrical movies, this might be different, if Toei advertises them properly online, in print, social media and public space. And oh, with a trailer that is a trailer.

Do you guys think we‘ll get now in march a proper trailer or more a teaser trailer? What else can we expect?

Many people praise the new screenwriter. What should I watch to get an idea of his work?
Nana, it is not for anyone, but he really the manga justice there. He wrote some episides for Monster, which is regarded quite highly as well.
 

sapphire91

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It looks indeed balanced and like a mix between Naoko, Sakou and the new designs of Tadano. Gladly, no season 3 design references.
The eyes are pretty the much new design and Sakou's eyeshap, the noses are all 90s, the eye color is shinsoban covers reference, while the skirts are the 90s/ newest design. And they look betrer than ever. I would offer a kick starter and finance her to redraw the whole thing in this style.

 
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sapphire91

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OMG..They are so cute. Venus and Mars look awesome. I like how much volume they put into Venus' hair. Mars' and Venus look so good. I hope they bring feisty Mars back in the movie.
I hope the actual show looks a bit like this when it comes to Venus hair as Tadano gave her a lot of volume in the concept art as well. The cute design can still deliver some nice etheral moments and flowy hair.
 

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The eyes are pretty the much new design and Sakou's eyeshap, the noses are all 90s, the eye color is shinsoban covers reference, while the skirts are the 90s/ newest design. And they look betrer than ever. I would offer a kick starter and finance her to redraw the whole thing in this style.

Mercury and Venus def look best here, followed by Jupiter, although her arm/body looks weird. Mars lacks in elegance, Tadano‘s new Mars looks better (and actually, older too). Moon looks a bit dumb and it fits her 90s anime personality, but I hope she‘ll look a bit more elegant. They are 15 by now and 15 year old girls can look like young adults. I don‘t like it when they look like elementary school kids.
 

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Mercury and Venus def look best here, followed by Jupiter, although her arm/body looks weird. Mars lacks in elegance, Tadano‘s new Mars looks better (and actually, older too). Moon looks a bit dumb and it fits her 90s anime personality, but I hope she‘ll look a bit more elegant. They are 15 by now and 15 year old girls can look like young adults. I don‘t like it when they look like elementary school kids.
I do not like it either but the new style is a lot more moe than before. At least there are no hair bubbles and wide, froggish mouths. But Venus on this picture looks best once again. Moon looks goofy in this size but the actual pictures are pretty big and she looks miles better in close up. Jupiter' s pose isca bit weird like you said. Tadano's Rei is much worse than this in my opinion - like a sloppy fanart of the 90s Rei. Ami looks amazinghere, while Tadano's concept art Ami looks deformed in the face. Here she looks like a very nice blend between Sako and the 90s.
 
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We can still get Iwata involved here. She can turn any chara design into a detailed dream. I would love to have her as chara designer, but while will get beautiful designs from her, it might be Sakou all over again. Sakou as far as I know did her very first design work for Crystal and while I love it, you know it was way too detailed and all to translate well. Keiko Iwata has never done character design as well so it might end up the same way. Toei are too greedy to pull out such design and Deen.... Oh, well... I can speculate Tadano simplified them so much to accomodate them.
 
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We can still get Iwata involved here. She can turn any chara design into a detailed dream. I would love to have her as chara designer, but while will get beautiful designs from her, it might be Sakou all over again. Sakou as far as I know did her very first design work for Crystal and while I love it, you know it was way too detailed and all to translate well. Keiko Iwata has never done character design as well so it might end up the same way. Toei are too greedy to pull out such design and Deen.... Oh, well... I can speculate Tadano simplified them so much to accomodate them.
Eh... i don’t agree with Sakou’s not translating well because act 25 showed that they absolutely DID, but the money wasn’t there to properly bring the designs to life.
I hope that the movie doesn’t end up with stilted animation. It’s one of my biggest concerns
 

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i think it‘s quite unlikely that neither sakou nor sakurai will touch SMC ever again.

While good animators fleshed sakou‘s design out (happened rarely) and she def knows how to draw details, she failed often when it comes to faces and bodies.

I just hope that Stars will have again a grown up style and no moe. And a new director.
 
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i think it‘s quite unlikely that neither sakou nor sakurai will touch SMC ever again.

While good animators fleshed sakou‘s design out (happened rarely) and she def knows how to draw details, she failed often when it comes to faces and bodies.

I just hope that Stars will have again a grown up style and no moe. And a new director.
What are the chances the Eternal movies bomb and we don't get Stars because of poor sales?
 

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Eh... i don’t agree with Sakou’s not translating well because act 25 showed that they absolutely DID, but the money wasn’t there to properly bring the designs to life.
I hope that the movie doesn’t end up with stilted animation. It’s one of my biggest concerns
The animation will be fluid. I am sure about it because it is a movie, and a theatrical release and not a tv movie. Second the designs are simpler to acomodate a more dynamic animation. We are yet to see the actual character designs and not just concept art. The difference between Sako's concept art and the actual designs was significant. Here we saw full body shots zoomed in for close ups, that were not intended to be seen as such. But the body proportions of Tadano's style are better for animation and will be much easier to work with in motion. As for the faces, I am sure they will be a lot more detailed in actual face animation and designs we are yet to see.

I doubt Eternal would bomb so bad we never get Stars. Some people claim Crystal bombed initially, they did have schedule problems, and they change style every season, but nothing stopped them to make more of it. In the end of the day anime is done to promote manga and to keep interest for the franchise. The manga sells well and the franchise keeps selling a lot of merch, Crystal/Eternal is there to keep this hapening, no matter if it sells well on its own by keeping the franchise relevant. Having 4 out of 5 arcs adapted is guarantee we will get Stars. The question is when...
 
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