Season 4 movies update: Sailor Moon Eternal - Coming in 2020

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rgveda99

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Wait, people are already complaining?


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Also, this trailer sucked. It didn't show anything. It just revealed the character designs.

But at least now we know we're getting something.
Not sure what you're trying to prove here. :roll:
 

Yamoon

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I can't believe they made the characters look even younger and more moe than they did in season 3. The designs (and the linework) look so poorly made and amateurish. Does this seriously look fine to people?
So sorry you don’t like it. Still that just the resume of all your posts on this forum since years... you should consider leaving it to spare you time and spare us to read your same stuff again...



That's madness! Not to mention, "eternal" alludes to the Stars arc, not the Dream arc. It's just so dumb and frustrating.
Well if you read the manga you will know that she got her eternal transformation during the 4th arc and not the 5th. Calling the serie now “eternal” is yeah truly FRUSTATING. Probably as wrong as having the wrong birds on the beach in episode 14 of crystal lol...

It signifies that a probably bad rendition of the song might be included in the movie(s).
Of course it can only be bad !!!

Most fans are just so desperate for more SM content, they'll take anything. Even if the characters were literal stick figures. Have higher standards, people!
Who are you already? Give me a break seriously .... what a constructive post of yours ... crystal is stupid everything is bad, fans are desperate bla bla bla...
 
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rgveda99

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BTW: Naoko Takeuchi has been credited as supervisor! Did that happen in S1-3? Is it good? Is it bad?
She was also supervisor in the arcade game. It probably means her opinions matter on certain things and she may have some sort of control directly and/or indirectly.

There were certain things that were altered in the arcade game due to deadlines like Sailor V's appearance as a boss who is disguised as Zoisite. Also :mako: is definitely 'meatier' in this game adaptation.
 
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Tankei Kingdom, Kinmoku
Still that just the resume of all your posts on this forum since years... you should consider leaving it to spare you time and spare us to read your same stuff again...
If what I say bothers you that much then feel free to block me but don't you dare tell me what to do. A discussion forum is for people to express their sincere thoughts and opinions; not to only say positive things. If you can't handle someone on the Internet not liking something you do, then the issue lies with you.

Well if you read the manga you will know that she got her eternal transformation during the 4th arc and not the 5th.
I know that already. That's why I said "alludes". She doesn't get her eternal form until the end of the arc. That's why people associate "eternal" with Stars where it's featured prominently from the start.

Of course it can only be bad !!!
I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said "probably". I'm going by experience as I haven't liked the most recent covers of the song. But even if it's a great cover, I'd still prefer a new song.

Who are you already?
Who are you? You could have easily ignored my post but you chose to attack me and pick a fight. Was that constructive? As if you haven't criticized Crystal a ton in the past. Stop being such a hypocrite.
 
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Everybody has had their excitements and dissapointments with Crystal. This is something that I have supported from the get go. First season got delayed a couple of times, I didn't give up. Then the bad CGI transformations were introduced, I criticized it as well. The animation was poor, the writing was poor. Season 3 removed and inntroduced some elements I don't like in anime designs. Now I don't really like the new look, I feel we need more imagies to really judge it.
Everybody says baad thinks at time and criticize elements of the franchise. You criticize something that you love, because you are hoping for the best. Everybody has the right to give opinion. Some might love the look, others might criticize it, but we all hope for the best in the end.
 

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She was also supervisor in the arcade game. It probably means her opinions matter on certain things and she may have some sort of control directly and/or indirectly.

There were certain things that were altered in the arcade game due to deadlines like Sailor V's appearance as a boss who is disguised as Zoisite. Also :mako: is definitely 'meatier' in this game adaptation.
Which arcade game? The one with the alternative Dark Kingdom story?

So maybe, finally the Inner senshi get some character (development)? I want Makoto 'meatier'.
 

rgveda99

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The beat-em up side scrolling one, which is loosely based on the first season of the first anime.
This is one of my pet peeves in the game. They did made her meatier but she ended up being shorter.



I want Makoto 'meatier'.
Depending on the animator she does look meatier on a few of them. Except for Masahiro Ando. He makes everyone look meatier. XD

Spoiler: show


 
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ChibiBoi

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At least we are getting them sooner at this point, and once the blu-ray is out we will see the original cut as well. Not that I am as thrilled to see them now. At least they could have posted actual character sheets in different poses and all, as well as close ups. Not an image in original ratio, zoomed in again as a close up...
I think this is because that's all they have completed so far to be honest LOL I have a feeling they're going to rush the animation again... but I guess we will see!
 
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I think this is because that's all they have completed so far to be honest LOL I have a feeling they're going to rush the animation again... but I guess we will see!
It is impossible for them to have just these. She was announced last year, a character designer always presebt them character sheets, full body different poses, facial expressions etc. If they have a key vusual, they have approved designs based in her sheets, so they could have showed them the way they did for season 1 on the website.
 
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Maybe we are going to get some more art in magazines in the next ciuple of weeks the way they did for previous seasons. This was just too little to even give a vague idea. The bare minimum and they label this teaser trailer...
 

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I can't believe they made the characters look even younger and more moe than they did in season 3. The designs (and the linework) look so poorly made and amateurish. Does this seriously look fine to people?

One of the thousands of things about Crystal that bother me is how, as the characters age, they get progressively younger looking. They started off as 18 year old-looking 14 year olds, and now they're 16 but look 11. But who knows? Maybe this is all actually marketing for a "Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon: Miracle Silver Crystal Anti-Aging Rejuvenation Cream" that will come out soon.

As I've already said, I don't dislike the new designs (apart from thinking they all look too young except for Chibiusa, who actually looks good for the first time in Crystal, imo) - they fixed a lot of the bigger issues with the Season III designs like the bubble highlights, giant ears, too-watery eyes, and handkerchief skirts - but given Kadano's statement that she was trying to capture Naoko's designs, and given the great job she did with the 90s anime, I was just expecting more. The new designs are fine, but they're underwhelming.

And it's entirely possible that in the actual, finished product they'll look better. But this is the first impression Toei chose to give us of them: a bunch of blown-up character concept art with super janky line work. They know we've been waiting for THREE YEARS for SOMETHING, and this is how they chose to present the new character designs to us. Not with polished art, but with something that looks like it came straight out of someone's daily doodle Devianart account. It speaks to how little Toei cares about this series, this reboot in particular.


It's so inconsistent, it boggles the mind. If it were a new adaptation, the title would have made sense but this is a direct continuation of SMC. You can't change titles in the midst of an ongoing adaptation. That's madness! Not to mention, "eternal" alludes to the Stars arc, not the Dream arc. It's just so dumb and frustrating.
In fairness, the Dream arc musical also used "Eternal" in its name. The third season of the anime was Sailor Moon Super, yet she doesn't become Super Sailor Moon until halfway through. I think "Eclipse" or "Elysion" or "Dream" would have been better subtitles, but ultimately I think "Eternal" is fine.


It signifies that a probably bad rendition of the song might be included in the movie(s). I don't get why people would want that. I'd rather get a new song.
Again, it just speaks to how little Toei cares about this reboot and how much this reboot has zero identity of its own. It has zero brand recognition and has honestly been nothing but a massive insult and waste of people's time and money. Even the unreleased Toon Maker project has made more of an impact on pop culture!


I agree with all of your criticisms. Most fans are just so desperate for more SM content, they'll take anything. Even if the characters were literal stick figures.
I was going to make a joke that with stick figures, at least the animation would stay on-model, but knowing Toei......
 

kamil88

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Im very curious, how creepy/scary moments will turn out with these character designs? Season 3 turned really well, and Dream have even more creepy moments.
 

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Maybe we are going to get some more art in magazines in the next ciuple of weeks the way they did for previous seasons.
True.


I have to remind those who aren't happy that for season 1+2 wet got this (quite ugly) first image



and shortly after this appeared in a magazine (and looks different and much better to me)



and this also looks much better thenthen inicial image:



So maybe this is Toei's strategy. Release first unpolished character sketches and observe reactions, and release after some quality material.

What is the next relevant event for more news? Isn't there Japan expo in France where they also release some infos?
 
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What is the next relevant event for more news? Isn't there Japan expo in France where they also release some infos?
Never heard of that before... In any case, whether or not news regarding the movies will be released Sailor Moon News and anime news sites will cover them without a doubt.
 
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True.


I have to remind those who aren't happy that for season 1+2 wet got this (quite ugly) first image



and shortly after this appeared in a magazine (and looks different and much better to me)



and this also looks much better thenthen inicial image:



So maybe this is Toei's strategy. Release first unpolished character sketches and observe reactions, and release after some quality material.

What is the next relevant event for more news? Isn't there Japan expo in France where they also release some infos?
The same they showed the rather questoionable concept art they uploaded the actual character designs on the site. Toei just mess up at these events. The concept art for s1 and 2 was reffered as concept art on the event. In any case we have key visual for Eternal. They key visual is usually the best you can show. So we have it already for Usagi and Chibi Usa...