Season 4 movies update: Sailor Moon Eternal - Delayed to 2021 (Part 1 on January 8th & Part 2 on February 11th)

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Naoko does draw them bigger then Crystal, and they were too small. In the final design for Eternal they look great, but here a tad big bigger than normal. I guess they will from now on be as inconsisten as Usagi's hair length.
as inconsistent as Usagi’s ... (insert random word)
 
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Naoko does draw them bigger then Crystal, and they were too small. In the final design for Eternal they look great, but here a tad big bigger than normal. I guess they will from now on be as inconsisten as Usagi's hair length.
I see. Never knew Naoko drew them that big, must have not paid attention to that detail. ^_^'
 
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Ooh, Taichi Nakamura drew them even bigger, too big in fact. Ai-no-senshi.net actually classified that as an error.
Nakamura is the worst. All characters look flat like paper. Look at the odango pieces, they completely cover the buns. He had no sense for perspective or tridimensionality. I wonder though how his style evolved.
 
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Nakamura is the worst. All characters look flat like paper. Look at the odango pieces, they completely cover the buns. He had no sense for perspective or tridimensionality. I wonder though how his style evolved.
He is indeed the worst. Not surprised to see he was involved in animation just once after Supers. For some anime called me Save Me Lollipop, which art is something he could do anyway as it looks grotesque. At least according to ANN, he did nothing but Sailor Moon and this one episode way back in 2006. So I guess it didn't. I wonder if this is really true, how could he get animation director position for an anime like Sailor Moon without any professional experience. Maybe the information is incomplete. But this is what can be found. One anime episode after Sailor Supers and one composition arrangement for an op theme.
 
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Nakamura is the worst. All characters look flat like paper. Look at the odango pieces, they completely cover the buns. He had no sense for perspective or tridimensionality. I wonder though how his style evolved.
He is indeed the worst.
Still the worst animation frames of Crystal makes Taichi Nakamura look somewhat acceptable. :quagmire:

I find it weird he was credited in that one episode of the SuperS special. The one with the vampire and that had great quality animation. I guess it depends on time and budget.

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Nakamura is the worst. All characters look flat like paper. Look at the odango pieces, they completely cover the buns. He had no sense for perspective or tridimensionality. I wonder though how his style evolved.
I find it weird he was credited in that one episode of the SuperS special. The one with the vampire and that had great quality animation. I guess it depends on time and budget.
People always complain about Masahiro Ando, but at least he could animate (Crescent Beam, Burning Mandala, Rei's vision of the silence in episode 90, etc.) and make the characters expressive. Nakamura's characters don't move or emote unless it's a different animator working on one of his episodes (like the fight between Usagi and Haruka/Michiru in 126. That was Hisashi Mori. Pretty sure he worked on the SuperS special, too.)

I wonder if this is really true, how could he get animation director position for an anime like Sailor Moon without any professional experience.
He is a professional, but he's probably just not properly credited. ANN can be an incomplete source at best and downright wrong at worst (they have Mari Tominaga as character designer for S when Ikuko Itoh was, albeit officially credited as "chief animation director.")

He probably just worked fast as an animation director, which is why he and Ando did so many episodes. Their art is mediocre, but they're not horrifically bad like Usagi in Crystal ep3 and can keep an episode looking consistent.
 
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People always complain about Masahiro Ando, but at least he could animate (Crescent Beam, Burning Mandala, Rei's vision of the silence in episode 90, etc.) and make the characters expressive. Nakamura's characters don't move or emote unless it's a different animator working on one of his episodes (like the fight between Usagi and Haruka/Michiru in 126. That was Hisashi Mori. Pretty sure he worked on the SuperS special, too.)



He is a professional, but he's probably just not properly credited. ANN can be an incomplete source at best and downright wrong at worst (they have Mari Tominaga as character designer for S when Ikuko Itoh was, albeit officially credited as "chief animation director.")

He probably just worked fast as an animation director, which is why he and Ando did so many episodes. Their art is mediocre, but they're not horrifically bad like Usagi in Crystal ep3 and can keep an episode looking consistent.
I am also curious about his pre an post work, but I do not know where to look at. Ando had a distingtive style, which was was clashing with the rest of the show, but he was not as bad, he just worked on more episodes. I have seen other stuff in which Ando was involved - and I think he had potential and improved. We can all agree that first Ikuko Itou episode, episode 5 looks no much better than Ando and she improved so much. Nakamura on the other hand was really flat. I am sure there is some mistake and there should be more stuff he did. He might have evolved and improved, but sadly we cannot find anything about him. I like to check how animation directors progressed after Sailor Moon as from what I have seen they were relatevely young at the time. Bad Crystal frames are in my opinion a result of terrible schedule and heavy outsorcing due to this.I am so glad outsorcing was not a thing in the past - one of the reasons I prefer anime prior 2000s.
 
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It seems to me that the anime industry has changed a lot. I wonder why it changed?

Each season of “Cardcaptor Sakura,“ for example, came out in 1998, 1999, and 2000, respectively. All seasons produced by the same studio and in Japan. Fans didn’t have to wait like crazy—the studio even gave us two movies, 80 minutes each, both great, and specials.

In 2018, we got the “Cardcaptor Sakura” sequel, “Clear Card,” and the series started a bit slow, but it progressed. By the time I watched the 22nd episode I loved the sequel just like the original series, but the last episode ended on a cliffhanger—and since 2018 we have not yet heard if they are going to animate the remaining arcs of the manga. Not one single word.

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People always complain about Masahiro Ando, but at least he could animate (Crescent Beam, Burning Mandala, Rei's vision of the silence in episode 90, etc.) and make the characters expressive. Nakamura's characters don't move or emote unless it's a different animator working on one of his episodes (like the fight between Usagi and Haruka/Michiru in 126. That was Hisashi Mori. Pretty sure he worked on the SuperS special, too.)



He is a professional, but he's probably just not properly credited. ANN can be an incomplete source at best and downright wrong at worst (they have Mari Tominaga as character designer for S when Ikuko Itoh was, albeit officially credited as "chief animation director.")

He probably just worked fast as an animation director, which is why he and Ando did so many episodes. Their art is mediocre, but they're not horrifically bad like Usagi in Crystal ep3 and can keep an episode looking consistent.
Kazuko Tadano did the Burning Mandala sequence, Crescent Beam was the only attack sequence Ando did.
 

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Kazuko Tadano did the Burning Mandala sequence, Crescent Beam was the only attack sequence Ando did.
No, she just corrected the art. She also corrected Crescent Beam a bit, if you look at Minako's eyes. Being an animation director in anime is about keeping the art consistent and/or on-model by redrawing parts of the animators' frames.

Here's the Sailor Teleport sequence from the R movie, which was done by Hisashi Kagawa. You can see Tadano's corrections next to the original images.
 

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No, she just corrected the art. She also corrected Crescent Beam a bit, if you look at Minako's eyes. Being an animation director in anime is about keeping the art consistent and/or on-model by redrawing parts of the animators' frames.

Here's the Sailor Teleport sequence from the R movie, which was done by Hisashi Kagawa. You can see Tadano's corrections next to the original images.
Wow that’s so crazy. The originals weren’t bad, but it’s amazing how such subtle differences make a huge impact
 
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It seems to me that the anime industry has changed a lot. I wonder why it changed?

Each season of “Cardcaptor Sakura,“ for example, came out in 1998, 1999, and 2000, respectively. All seasons produced by the same studio and in Japan. Fans didn’t have to wait like crazy—the studio even gave us two movies, 80 minutes each, both great, and specials.

In 2018, we got the “Cardcaptor Sakura” sequel, “Clear Card,” and the series started a bit slow, but it progressed. By the time I watched the 22nd episode I loved the sequel just like the original series, but the last episode ended on a cliffhanger—and since 2018 we have not yet heard if they are going to animate the remaining arcs of the manga. Not one single word.

:?
mh well the animators are not payed well so i dont know if someone want to take that career and they better outsource because some work with paying less or they take to many works and doesn't have the people,
now the industries do so many anime, i know it look less because quarantine but they do so many
oh and with card captor sakura well maybe they are waiting for the ending or the manga having more progress to do the anime, well like this maybe they dont give it another ending, i think before they concentrate with like 3 or 5 animes and add some random or fillers episode, now the people want more accord to the manga than something random
 
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mh well the animators are not payed well so i dont know if someone want to take that career and they better outsource because some work with paying less or they take to many works and doesn't have the people,
now the industries do so many anime, i know it look less because quarantine but they do so many
oh and with card captor sakura well maybe they are waiting for the ending or the manga having more progress to do the anime, well like this maybe they dont give it another ending, i think before they concentrate with like 3 or 5 animes and add some random or fillers episode, now the people want more accord to the manga than something random
With “Sailor Moon,” though, the manga is complete—and “Sailor Moon” is a very beloved anime. Yet the 3 seasons of Crystal were mishandled.

If TOEI announced a new “Sailor Moon” anime 10-15 years ago, I am sure TOEI would deliver an impressive product.

But now things are different: the Crystal episodes were made a week before they aired, the animation was outsourced, we had to wait 2-3 years to get season 3, and now they are making movies.

I have also noticed that most anime titles nowadays tend to be shorter: 12-24 episodes, maximum, whereas before a series would have between 70-200 episodes.

The anime industry has changed.
 

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With “Sailor Moon,” though, the manga is complete—and “Sailor Moon” is a very beloved anime. Yet the 3 seasons of Crystal were mishandled.

If TOEI announced a new “Sailor Moon” anime 10-15 years ago, I am sure TOEI would deliver an impressive product.

But now things are different: the Crystal episodes were made a week before they aired, the animation was outsourced, we had to wait 2-3 years to get season 3, and now they are making movies.

I have also noticed that most anime titles nowadays tend to be shorter: 12-24 episodes, maximum, whereas before a series would have between 70-200 episodes.

The anime industry has changed.
i know thats a problem with organization than if is complete or not, is sad but much industries want to sell more with investing nothing or much less than what some project need, in this case sailor moon

thats true i remember before they were with 13 episodes a season now mostly 12 or 24, it looks like they do some test or fail XD or take the minimum risk, like oh the isekai theme become popular now we see most anime with that theme, i know they did before but not that almost all of the anime do that theme
yeah its like they make a trial with 12 episode and if work do the other season
well naruto now boruto, one pieace and some pretty cure animes still go with 52 or 700 or more episodes
i think detective conan and shin chan still go
i think was because some great industries go bankrupt with taken some risk with some anime than now they change how they work and what to work