Things You Liked Better In The 90s Anime

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Neon Genesis

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So what are some aspects of the 90s anime that you thought were better than the manga and Crystal? Besides obvious things like more character development, I like the anime is more comical. The manga has some humorous moments but it's not as over the top comedy antics that I enjoy from the 90s anime. Some fans criticisize the 90s anime for being more formulaic but I feel like the fight scenes are better coordinated whereas in the manga it often feels like the action is all over the place. Manga fans complain about the breakup subplot in the 90s anime but I am kind of grateful they didn't have the whole subplot of the Inners getting kidnapped by Rubeus. It was fine when reading the manga because you kind of read the story all at once that way but it could be frustrating when watching Crystal waiting just to see Rei in action again, especially with that bizarre twice a month schedule they did. The 90s anime handled it more smoothly by having the Inners be kidnapped all at once and it lasts only one episodes instead of being spread out across the whole arc. I also appreciate the 90s anime didn't treat Usagi's jealously with Chibiusa so seriously and that Chibiusa's awkward kiss was just an illusion to trick Usagi in the 90s anime. While I enjoy Haruka's gender fluidity in the manga and Crystal, I prefer how much more devoted Haruka and Michiru are to each other in the 90s anime. Haruka seems to spend more time flirting with Usagi than her own girlfriend and I just like we get a lot more screentime and backstory with Michiu in the 90s anime. The episode about Haruka and Michiru's past has always been one of my favorites.
 

Seira Hazuki

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*Takes a deep breath*

Classic:

* The Rainbow Crystal arc is one of my favorite arcs of the original '90s anime. It made the stakes higher for finding the Silver Crystal as three different teams, the Dark Kingdom, the Sailor Senshi, and Tuxedo Kamen all competed for the seven gems. In the manga, it felt like the Dark Kingdom's various plots to find the Silver Crystal were nonsensical.

* Nephrite, Zoisite and Kunzite to an extent have much more personality and are more memorable

* Naru actually playing a decent role in the plot

* The Dark Kingdom finale is a thousand times better than the manga ending. Each senshi's death carries so much weight and it all sets up that epic moment when they all join hands with Princess Serenity to defeat Queen Beryl. Usagi's monologue when she's 'dying' always gives me goosebumps. The manga's version, while superior to Crystal, is just so incredibly flawed and doesn't have as much of an emotional payoff. The Inners sacrifice their lives, but the effect of their effort is only show in one small panel that is easily missed. Sailor Moon's fight against Queen Metalia is boring. Things happen with very little logic. A watch stops a sword that can break diamonds? Mamoru suddenly loses his vision for no apparent reason? You can tell that Naoko was rushing to meet deadlines because some of the art too was kind of sloppy in its first run.

R:

* While Usagi's jealousy over Chibiusa got annoying, never did it seem like she actually was convinced that Mamoru was in LOVE with a freaking 9-year-old. Just no that entire plotline in the manga.

* As Neon Genesis mentioned before, having Mercury, Mars and Jupiter kidnapped for the majority of the Black Moon arc was dumb.

S:

* Haruka doesn't flat out cheat on Michiru with Usagi.

* Haruka and Michiru in general have better character development in the original series. Especially Michiru, who feels like a more nuanced character in the '90s anime.

* The original anime shows us how Haruka and Michiru met and goes into their backstories. In general, it does a better job of showing that they're in a relationship.

* The episode where the Talismans are revealed is one of the best moments in the Sailor Moon franchise period.

* I love both the ending of S and the Infinity arc, but I like S more by a tiny margin. It was just so incredibly emotional and everyone played an important part.

SuperS:

* Eh............................... *Tries hard to find something that I liked better than the Dream arc* Yeah, no. I think I'll pass this one.

Sailor Stars:

* Sailor Aluminum Seiren and Sailor Lead Crow from the original are some of my favorite characters in this series and their manga counterparts are so disappointing. But otherwise there's not much I prefer from the original anime for this season.
 

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Usagi herself - everything, the way she looks, her personality, her flaws, her optimism -etc everything
the inners - their personalities
Rei's relationship with Yuuichirou
Ami x Ryo
Kunzite x Zoisite
Nephrite x Naru
Haruka x Michiru
the comedy
I like when villains are redeemed
the voices in the Japanese
the Viz dub voices over the cloverway and dic voices
the music in both the original and dic including BGM and intro's and outros
the art while isn't perfect at least everyone doesn't look super skinny, the art is best in SuperS
I actually like the stock footage P-:
I like the fillers not superS level of filler but stuff like the rainbow crystal arc
the villains for the most part are likeable except Rubeus and Wiseman [both are jerks to the max]


I can go on I acknowledge the 90s anime is flaw city but in some odd way I like that it's imperfect
aside from break up and stars and chibiusa focus in supers and chiba's whole character and extremely flawed relationship with Usagi I can look past most complaints I have for the 90s anime
 
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I like that some of the villains were redeemable, or had redeeming qualities (though I wasn't happy with all of the ones that had been redeemed). I liked that Tuxedo Mask wasn't brainwashed by the Black Moon Clan. Prince Demande didn't kiss Usagi. The MOTW villains of the manga got some more screen time (though this could've hurt the screen time development for the heroes).
 

rgveda99

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AmiMizunosHusband said:
everything but Post Nehelenia Stars lol
The Phages at least improved from the weirdness of the Quartet's Lemures. ^_^

Sadly the Phages weren't utilized properly in battle making almost every filler episode action scenes nearly boring. :ohdear:

It makes up for everything up until the last 3 episodes. I just loved the ending =^_^=
 

Neo King Rose

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rgveda99 said:
AmiMizunosHusband said:
everything but Post Nehelenia Stars lol
The Phages at least improved from the weirdness of the Quartet's Lemures. ^_^

Sadly the Phages weren't utilized properly in battle making almost every filler episode action scenes nearly boring. :ohdear:

It makes up for everything up until the last 3 episodes. I just loved the ending =^_^=
How are the phages any less weird than the Lemures?
At least the lemures had the excuse of being from a circus
 

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Prince Rose said:
How are the phages any less weird than the Lemures?
At least the lemures had the excuse of being from a circus
I like the Robocop and the Clown Phages to name a few. :innocent:

But the best one was Sailor Gamer coz she's the only Phage who was DD Girl level threat. 8)
 

Neo King Rose

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rgveda99 said:
Prince Rose said:
How are the phages any less weird than the Lemures?
At least the lemures had the excuse of being from a circus
I like the Robocop and the Clown Phages to name a few. :innocent:

But the best one was Sailor Gamer coz she's the only Phage who was DD Girl level threat. 8)
I'll agree on sailor Gamer, probably one of the best Motd's in the series if not the best
 

rgveda99

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Prince Rose said:
I'll agree on sailor Gamer, probably one of the best Motd's in the series if not the best
Its funny how a lot of fans hated the animation style for episode 191. ^_^'

For me I actually liked it. :D

It's like Saber Marionette but done right. :ohmy:

Here are some close up shots that I felt were really good especially :mako:'s.


This episode totally rocks. :whee: Even :minako: and :rei: goofing off in an actual fight I can totally forgive that. :innocent:

This episode is what was missing for almost all the Stars filler. =^_^=
 

Neon Genesis

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Seira Hazuki said:
* The Dark Kingdom finale is a thousand times better than the manga ending. Each senshi's death carries so much weight and it all sets up that epic moment when they all join hands with Princess Serenity to defeat Queen Beryl. Usagi's monologue when she's 'dying' always gives me goosebumps. The manga's version, while superior to Crystal, is just so incredibly flawed and doesn't have as much of an emotional payoff. The Inners sacrifice their lives, but the effect of their effort is only show in one small panel that is easily missed. Sailor Moon's fight against Queen Metalia is boring. Things happen with very little logic. A watch stops a sword that can break diamonds? Mamoru suddenly loses his vision for no apparent reason? You can tell that Naoko was rushing to meet deadlines because some of the art too was kind of sloppy in its first run.
It's my understanding Naoko actually originally wanted to kill the Inners off as well but she was told not to because they worried it would be too traumatizing for kids, so she changed the ending, but the anime version was still able to do it. I agree though the anime's ending was a lot better for the first season. I cry every time I watch it but the manga's ending comes across rather cliched and predictable. The one thing I did love about the manga was that Minako is actually the one who defeats Beryl which disappointed me a lot when Crystal changed it so Sailor Moon kills Beryl instead.


SuperS:

* Eh............................... *Tries hard to find something that I liked better than the Dream arc* Yeah, no. I think I'll pass this one.

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I think the Amazon Trio's death was handled pretty well in SuperS and Fisheye's sacrifice is still sad to me.
 

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Ami x ryo,rei x yuuichirou,naru x nephrite,shnozaki x makoto
Allan as a character :love:
Rei's grandfather :love:
I loved the r breakup arc unlike most fans (because i hate mamo)
Filler episodes.
And of course doom tree arc :keke:
 

SailorLinda1

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The one thing I prefer in the 90s anime is the character-building...yes, the 90s anime had too many unnecessary fillers and that dragged out the 90s anime for much too long, to the point of making the 90s anime too tedious for me to watch, nowadays I would just skip some episodes (mostly the unnecessary filler eps). But one of the things the 90s anime did better was the fact that it had a decent amount of character-driven episodes that helped to really flesh out the other characters more, and that in turn, gave the other Senshis some much needed focus. There just wasn't enough character-building for the other characters in the manga and Crystal in comparison, there's just too much focus on Usagi, Mamoru and Chibiusa, and not nearly enough focus on the other characters in the manga and Crystal.

Another aspect of the 90s anime that I prefer over the manga and Crystal is the more focus on the friendships between the characters. As much as I love the manga and Crystal, but I've always thought that there's just too much focus on Usagi's romance with Mamoru in the manga and Crystal and not enough on the friendships between the characters. I love that Usagi's close friendships with the other characters were explored and emphasized more in the 90s anime, I think that the 90s anime was just as much about the friendships between the characters as the romance aspect.
 
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Neon Genesis said:
I think the Amazon Trio's death was handled pretty well in SuperS and Fisheye's sacrifice is still sad to me.
My only issue was that they were easily subdued by the average MOTW. I would've at least made the assassin a manga villain, like Xenotime and Zeolite.
 

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I like the insert songs in the 90's, it's basically the best part of the series.
In Crystal episode 36 the song was good used, but they should use it as the opening of the episode, instead of repeating the song.

The final battles vs Metallia and Wiseman were much better because of the music, in manga and Crystal were very repetitive.
 
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magic713 said:
Neon Genesis said:
I think the Amazon Trio's death was handled pretty well in SuperS and Fisheye's sacrifice is still sad to me.
My only issue was that they were easily subdued by the average MOTW. I would've at least made the assassin a manga villain, like Xenotime and Zeolite.
Oh man that would have been a great place for them to show up.
 

MariaTenebre

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There were so much. For one I loved the character building, characterization and world building that was done in the 90s anime. I loved the fact that most of the villains had actual personalities and characterization in the 90s anime unlike being the glorified MOTDs they were in the manga. I liked many of the anime only plots like the Rainbow Crystal saga and I loved some of the anime exclusive villains like Al, En and the Makaiju. I actually enjoyed the filler on the most part as I thought it gave great characterization and development for the characters but I will admit that sometimes it became excessive like in SuperS I also wished that instead of some of the filler episodes in Classic it would have elaborated more on Beryl and the Shitennou's backstories. I liked as Seira Hazuki said that Haruka never cheated on Michiru like in the manga and Crystal which I always felt was used just to exploit their relationship to build Usagi and Mamoru's relationship. I also liked that we got to see how Haruka and Michiru met in the 90s anime. I much preferred Sailor Galaxia's anime story to her emo manga story and even though I preferred the darker tone of Dream I did like Queen Nehellenia's 90s backstory over the manga where instead of a Chaos Spawn she was a lonely Queen driven insane by the desire to be perfect and beautiful. Besides they could have always made the Chaos Spawn and original character and to be whatever creature in the mirror that tempted her.

I loved Kunzite and Zoisite's romantic relationship and thought it was so much better and original then the Senshi/Shitennou stuff in Crystal. I also liked the pairings of Ami/Urawa and Rei/Yuuichirou. I liked Makoto's past with Shinozaki even though my favorite Makoto pairing is Makoto/Asanuma. I felt that the Dark Kingdom's cavernous design in the 90s was much scarier and more fitting then their castle design in the manga and Crystal. Pretty much I prefer Classic, R, S in general over the manga with some exceptions.
 

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Although I generally prefer the Manga/Crystal, & there were/might be more elements from Sailor Moon Crystal that I like EVEN BETTER THAN IN THE MANGA, ...such as:

Spoiler: show
All 4 of the Shittenou/Heavenly Kings initially finding out that they had been BRAINWASHED, INSTEAD OF SOLELY "MALACHITE"/KUNZITE,
& as for the elements of Sailor Moon Classic that I prefer, well:

Tuf Pic said:
imaginationgirl said:
The manga , and crystal they are my favorites
I generally prefer these 2 versions as well, although:

There ARE actually a handful of elements from the original anime that I prefer, such as:

Tsukikage No Knight, an aspect of Tuxedo Kamen's/Prince Endymion's/Mamoru Chiba's concioussness who did NOT turn :twistedevil: / :evil: & remembered who he was, & helped the Sailor Senshi, & his name & attire were nice as well, & I liked that he was a male who was connected with the Moon, like TsukiYomi, the main Shinto Kami of the Moon, amongst many other male lunar deities in our world's mythology/legends/folkloree/fairytales, (maybe he could be the potential Power Guardian for Tuxedo Kamen/Prince Endymion/Mamoru Chiba?!), & some of the Anime-Exclusive content, such as some of the Monster'(s)-Of-The-Day, & some of the Anime-Exclusive Movies, (ESPECIALLY THE SAILOR MOON R MOVIE)!!

& there was @LEAST 1 Sailor Moon video game that combined elements from the original Manga, & the 90's Anime!!
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Tuf Pic said:
1) Xenian Blossom, & Fiore,

...&...

2) I would like to see a role for Moonlight Knight, maybe as Tuxedo Mask's Power Guardian?!

...Also...

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24188
,

SOURCES FOR THE ABOVE QUOTES:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14678&p=829486#p829486,

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=24815&start=60&st=0&sk=t&sd=a,

Also, I :love: Motoki's & Mamoru's friendship in the 90's Anime!!

& now that I've brought that up:

View this thread!!

As well as Mamoru X Fiore!!

EDIT: As well as some of the Anime-exclusive monsters-of-the-day, (although admittedly I DO like all of the Manga/Crystal-exclusive Monsters-of-the-day as well)!!

& the Sailor Moon R Movie!!

Also, who else here prefers "Moon Tiara Magic", over "Moon Tiara Action", or ESPECIALLY, "Moon Frisbee"?!
 
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Prince Rose said:
Usagi herself - everything, the way she looks, her personality, her flaws, her optimism -etc everything
the inners - their personalities
Rei's relationship with Yuuichirou
Ami x Ryo
Kunzite x Zoisite
Nephrite x Naru
Haruka x Michiru
the comedy
I like when villains are redeemed
the voices in the Japanese
the Viz dub voices over the cloverway and dic voices
the music in both the original and dic including BGM and intro's and outros
the art while isn't perfect at least everyone doesn't look super skinny, the art is best in SuperS
I actually like the stock footage P-:
I like the fillers not superS level of filler but stuff like the rainbow crystal arc
the villains for the most part are likeable except Rubeus and Wiseman [both are jerks to the max]


I can go on I acknowledge the 90s anime is flaw city but in some odd way I like that it's imperfect
aside from break up and stars and chibiusa focus in supers and chiba's whole character and extremely flawed relationship with Usagi I can look past most complaints I have for the 90s anime

^^^ me as well although I didn't care much for Naru being pushed aside or the boring beach episodes that the original dub conveniently left out I thought they took away from the story at hand and only served to show the Senshi in bathing suits (Rei-Chan's left nothing to the imagination XD) but I'm willing to overlook them because of how great the 90s anime was/is.

aside from Stars the 90s anime was near perfect (especially artwork), also I prefer Ami-Chan in the 90s anime I'm Not attracted to either the manga or crystal version of Ami-Chan as I find them to be not as attractive