What Good Guy Should Mamoru Be With?

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What Good Guy Should Mamoru Be With?

  • Usagi

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • Ami

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • Rei

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Michiru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Setsuna

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Ittou Asanuma

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Saori (SuperS)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hina Kusaka (PGSM)

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Naruru and Ruruna

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • Total voters
    14

MementoNepenthe

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Time for the follow-up to my "What Villain Should Mamoru Be With?" poll! What good guy do you think he should end up with?

Usagi: His canon true love and soulmate across all versions of the series

Ami: At the very least she seems to have a minor crush on him in the original Pioneer dub of the R Movie. In one of the stories making up the S audio drama, Mamoru secretly fantasized about having Ami as his wife and taking baths with her.

Rei: In the first season of the anime, she was super into Mamoru and the two went out a few times. In the aforementioned S audio drama, Mamoru secretly fantasized about having Rei as his mistress.

Michiru: Mirroring (pun semi-intended) Haruka's interest in Usagi, an attraction beween Michiru and Mamoru is slightly hinted at in the manga.

Setsuna: Sailor Pluto has long had an unrequited love for Mamoru's future self, King Endymion. Conversely, Pluto may be Mamoru in drag. Pick a side!

Asanuma: Does Asanuma just have a "guy crush" on Mamoru, or are his feelings a little more romantic?

Saori: Mamoru's college friend we met that one time in SuperS. Should he have thrown Usagi aside to take up with the more serious-minded Saori?

Hina: Mamoru's fiancee in the live action series.

Naruru and Ruruna: Chibiusa's friends, one of whom is Naru's younger sister, may be somewhere around thirteen, but that didn't stop Mamoru from getting seriously aroused by them. Someone call Chris Hansen!

Other: Is there someone else you ship Mamoru with? What about Helios, the lonely priest who's long watched over his beloved prince? Or Diana, who clearly idolizes King Endymion, and may share Pluto's and Chibiusa's feelings for him? (Hey, Mamoru did imagine Usagi as a pet cat in that audio drama...) Someone else entirely? Let us know!
 
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I agree about Hina. While I'm glad she didn't turn bitter or jealous, there really was no reason for him to abandon her like that. He should have stayed with her instead of falling for Usagi.

I also think that Mamoru and anime Rei made an excellent match. They had instant chemistry at the amusement park, and while the relationship was somewhat one-sided, Rei wasn't as pushy. I don't ship other versions of Rei with him, but the old anime Rei and Mamoru should have ended up together. She's the passion and fire, while he's the cold and distant one.

As for the others...

I don't care if Usagi is is canonical true love, I really don't like them together, at least for the old anime. In other versions, it's not as bad, but in the old anime it was forced.

Ami and Mamoru have the problem that they are too similar in terms of personality, except Ami is friendlier.

Michiru may seem like the "perfect" girlfriend....but I just don't trust her.

I abhor Setsuna having a crush on Mamoru for a host of reasons, namely because it feeds into that awful "If I can't have you, I'll pledge myself to your kid trope". It is the one thing the old anime avoided, because I really like the idea of an aromantic Pluto.
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Asanuma has the standard Japanese "boy looks up to older student" crush, but Mamoru seems to have enough decency to not reciprocate, although sadly this is likely because he is not open to having that type of relationship.

As for Saori, didn't she have a boyfriend in that episode?

I did vote for the other. If Mamoru were to enter into a relationship with a man, why not his adult friend, Motoki? The two of them were really close in the manga when Mamoru was "Endo."
 
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I go mainly for Usagi, as I do like their relationship (especially in seasons 1 and 5 of the anime- 4 is kind of bad though, with that stupid "Usagi the ninja" episode wiping away years of subtle character growth about the whole jealousy angle). It's not the strongest relationship in the franchise, but, I do like it.

My semi-distant second for him would be Anime!Rei. (In the Usagi thread I supported a polyamorous Mamoru-Usagi-Rei relationship for the '90s anime versions, and that still is my main ship, but, Usagi's the one who has two-way chemistry with Rei, while Rei and Mamoru seemed pretty awkward together, with her being very interested and clingy and a little pushy, and him being very aloof towards her... like their "date" with the french doll collection where the most intense emotion is a weird passing glance at Masato Sanjoin, or the thing where he starts ignoring her calls entirely to brood about the rainbow crystals. I could see their dynamic perking back up, but only with Usagi as the glue holding it together.)

Definitely not with Manga!Rei, though, I really don't think she's interested.

As for the others:

Ami:
It's a cute premise but I don't see it very seriously. Maybe one of those completely-different-timeline things, like pairing Usagi and Umino or somesuch.

Michiru:
Nahhh.

Setsuna:
For the manga, this is actually pretty interesting... not my first choice, but I could certainly see a good story about it. (Plus Manga!Usagi's relationship with Mamoru seems a little weaker to me anyway since it's all so rushed and she's even worse about her jealousy with Chibi-Usa and so on, instead of growing up a tiny bit when she realizes it's their own daughter... so there's more room for this, I think.) There isn't much to work with in the anime version, though, but then again she's so distant that who can really say what she's thinking in that version.

I should also note though, that I'm not familiar with the "pledge myself to your kid" trope in question, and maybe this pairing has bad implications I haven't thought through. (Having started with the anime, I tend to think of her as more of a favored aunt for Chibi-Usa, someone who was motherly to her when she didn't have anybody else.)

I must admit I hadn't heard of theories that Setsuna was Mamoru, or had somehow forgotten, but that's incredibly silly and kind of amusing. What could cause such a string of events? (Also, that isn't really mutually exclusive with her being attracted to Mamoru... just saying. ;) )

Asanuma:
Hmmm. I could definitely imagine this, but it'd be tricky (how much younger is Asanuma, really? Like one year?) It reminds me, in spite of vast differences in the characters and settings, of my old pet theory for Tenchi Muyo that maybe Tenchi wasn't actually interseted in any of the girls, and the whole thing might someday deflate when Tenchi tries to sneak out on a date with an ordinary fellow male student. Anyway, Mamoru and Asanuma do have some kind of chemistry and Asanuma does seem weirdly interested. Then again, he thought they were aliens at one point... so maybe Asanuma and Fiore...???

Saori:
Saori is a bad friend with no genuine respect for Mamoru or his feelings, and deserves to not be in more than one episode. I'm giving it a firm nope. Also,
As for Saori, didn't she have a boyfriend in that episode?
I believe so, or at least someone who she had chemistry with/ it was heavily suggested. More of a fit than Mamoru, anyway.

Hina:
Still need to see the live action series, so no opinion yet.

Naruru and Ruruna:
Okay, so I've heard abotu this story but not gotten to it yet, but I think I know the summary (I got curious when I found out manga Naru had a sister; pretty sure she's an only child in the anime). It sounds awkward to say the least ^_^'

Other: Helios
Nahh. But now I'm picturing Chibi-Usa taking after her mom's fantasies, when Usagi wanted to dance with Tuxedo Mask and Mamoru/the Moonlight Knight, except now it's Chibi-Usa dancing with her dad and Pegasus. Oh dear.

Other: Diana
Maybe the manga version, but I doubt he's comfortable with it. Isn't she like, a thousand years younger? Nevermind being a cat. I see it more as a young crush on a much older man that's unrequited.

(Hey, Mamoru did imagine Usagi as a pet cat in that audio drama...)
The same one where he's thinking about Ami and Rei?? So this audio drama is basically just Mamoru having weird fantasies? Did Tohru Furuya reprise his role in this?? Is this bona-fide apocyrpha?! XD It sounds kind of absurd and amazing.

Other heroic types... hmm. Motoki sounds worth listing, but, I don't see it. One of the heroic versions of the Shitennou might have some sort of chemistry with him, but I don't have much for that either (plus maybe that should've gone in the villain thread). Maybe, for the sole purpose of making Rei's head explode, Yuuichirou???? Yuuichirou sure was hot on him in the steamy bath in that Usagi the Ninja episode, eh? Eh??? :P You might even say Yuuichirou had a lot of woo-

...I'll show myself out.
 
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MementoNepenthe

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Asanuma:
Hmmm. I could definitely imagine this, but it'd be tricky (how much younger is Asanuma, really? Like one year?)
He's a year younger than Usagi and the girls, so around 13, making him three or four years younger than Mamoru.

I believe so, or at least someone who she had chemistry with/ it was heavily suggested. More of a fit than Mamoru, anyway.
Saori and Mamoru's mutual guy friend had a crush on Saori, but she didn't really reciprocate. IIRC, the episode ends with her maybe giving him a shot after realizing she'll never get with Mamoru.

Naruru and Ruruna:
Okay, so I've heard abotu this story but not gotten to it yet, but I think I know the summary (I got curious when I found out manga Naru had a sister; pretty sure she's an only child in the anime). It sounds awkward to say the least ^_^'



Other: Diana
Maybe the manga version, but I doubt he's comfortable with it. Isn't she like, a thousand years younger? Nevermind being a cat. I see it more as a young crush on a much older man that's unrequited.
Technically, she's a Mautian, not a cat :wink:

The same one where he's thinking about Ami and Rei?? So this audio drama is basically just Mamoru having weird fantasies? Did Tohru Furuya reprise his role in this?? Is this bona-fide apocyrpha?! XD It sounds kind of absurd and amazing.
It's the same cast as the original anime. The premise is Mamoru is worried he doesn't have a pure heart because the Death Busters haven't targeted him yet, so Ami uses her latest invention to inspect the innermost desires of his heart. It's very silly and random.
 
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MariaTenebre

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I agree about Hina. While I'm glad she didn't turn bitter or jealous, there really was no reason for him to abandon her like that. He should have stayed with her instead of falling for Usagi.

I also think that Mamoru and anime Rei made an excellent match. They had instant chemistry at the amusement park, and while the relationship was somewhat one-sided, Rei wasn't as pushy. I don't ship other versions of Rei with him, but the old anime Rei and Mamoru should have ended up together. She's the passion and fire, while he's the cold and distant one.

As for the others...

I don't care if Usagi is is canonical true love, I really don't like them together, at least for the old anime. In other versions, it's not as bad, but in the old anime

Ami and Mamoru have the problem that they are too similar in terms of personality, except Ami is friendlier.

Michiru may seem like the "perfect" girlfriend....but I just don't trust her.

I abhor Setsuna having a crush on Mamoru for a host of reasons, namely because it feeds into that awful "If I can't have you, I'll pledge myself to your kid trope". It is the one thing the old anime avoided, because I really like the idea of an aromantic Pluto
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Asanuma has the standard Japanese "boy looks up to older student" crush, but Mamoru seems to have enough decency to not reciprocate, although sadly this is likely because he is not open to having that type of relationship

As for Saori, didn't she have a boyfriend in that episode?

I did vote for the other. If Mamoru were to enter into a relationship with a man, why not his adult friend, Motoki. The two of them were really close in the manga when Mamoru was "Endo."
He should not have stayed with Hina again he didn't love Hina the way he loved Usagi. It wouldn't have been good for Mamoru to stay in a relationship with someone he dosen't have feelings for like that.

Also Mamoru and Rei were really not a good match for one Mamoru wasn't really into her and mainly went on dates to keep her happy but clearly did not feel the same way for her as he did Usagi.

Also I really don't see the difference between Usagi and Mamoru's love in any adaptation but again I don't see why anyone would have a problem with them as they are a very devoted couple. Of course it is your privilege not to like them I just don't get the hate some people give them.
 
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I should also note though, that I'm not familiar with the "pledge myself to your kid" trope in question, and maybe this pairing has bad implications I haven't thought through
The closest trope I could find is PiningAfterProtagonistsParent. Amazingly enough, Sailor Moon is not mentioned (or any anime/manga example), although since Chibi-Usa is more of a supporting character, maybe she wouldn't apply.

The premise is Mamoru is worried he doesn't have a pure heart because the Death Busters haven't targeted him yet, so Ami uses her latest invention to inspect the innermost desires of his heart. It's very silly and random.
They wasted a perfectly good premise on silliness. I mean Minako's worry about not having a pure heart degenerated into silliness, too, but at least that was Minako.

Maybe I dislike the silliness because I don't want Mamoru to have a pure heart. :p
 

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Yeah I hated that S audio play it was so OOC for Mamoru in not just the 90s but all adaptations with him secretly wanting to marry Ami and seeing Usagi as a pet. I bet Naoko Takeuchi probably hated that audio drama as well. I mean he was clearly shown in the 90s anime to have romantic feelings solely for Usagi and he treated her wonderfully when they were together even when Usagi was being extra like in the birthday episode.