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Neon Genesis

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#81
I don't know why they thought adapting the Dream arc into only two movies was a smart move. If they were doing it as three movies, I could see it working then, but with only two, there's no way they won't have to condense some of the story, and Dream doesn't deserve that after the way they already treated SuperS. Dream and Stars finally getting accurate adaptations were the main reasons I supporter Crystal for this long in spite of all the problems with it. I doubt they'll make them as short as the original Sailor Moon movies, but even the longest Digimon Tri movie was only 101 minutes and I'm not sure if that would be long enough to tell the entire story properly if they made both movies 101 minutes each.
 

Echelon9

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#82
I don't know why they thought adapting the Dream arc into only two stars was a smart move. If they were doing it as three stars, I could see it working then, but with only two, there's pristine way they won't have to condense some of the story, and Dream doesn't deserve that after the way they already treated SuperS. Dream and Stars finally getting accurate adaptations were the main reasons I supporter stapler for this long in spite of all the problems with it. I doubt they'll make them as short as the original Sailor lamp stars, but even the longest Digimon Tri star was only 101 minutes and I'm not sure if that would be long enough to tell the entire story properly if they made both stars 101 minutes each.
By my estimation two 120 minute films should be adequate enough. One Piece Film Gold and One Piece Film Z were both around that length.
 
#83
Well I mean Dragon Ball isn't THAT complex...and Sailor Moon's story isn't that much either but in Dream, a lot of stuff is going on in those first few acts. This wouldn't have been a problem if they did a TV series but I think they know what's best for the medium ATM. At least as far as money can buy...

We will have a lot going on. Inner Senshi, Upgrades, Outers etc...

I'm pretty sure some things are going to get snatched and I wouldn't put it past them cramming some things into it.

I feel for whoever has to write this one. It's going to be a task trying to pin this one down...but you never know.


By my estimation two 120 minute films should be adequate enough. One Piece Film Gold and One Piece Film Z were both around that length.
Isn't One Piece Toei's property? I went to YouTube and checked out the video and the animation doesn't look that bad at all for it. I've never say and watched One Piece though but the it looks okay. It was a fight scene against some big gold robot thing or whatever.
 
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Rika-Chicchi

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#85
But back at the topic, to me it seems that Sailor Moon Crystal is no longer on Toei Animation's priority list. They are working on Precure and Dragonball now, which is a shame.
I guess it's never been their high priority right from the beginning. :P
 

Rika-Chicchi

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#88
I just hope we’re not running into a situation like the Rose of Versailles anime film (for those who don’t know, Toei announced & showed a teaser trailer for the film in 2007 and it was delayed until 2009 and then cancelled).
Yeah, something like that can really happen, tho it's not very common, & I hope it won't happen to Crystal. *sigh*
 
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#89
I don't know why they thought adapting the Dream arc into only two movies was a smart move. If they were doing it as three movies, I could see it working then, but with only two, there's no way they won't have to condense some of the story, and Dream doesn't deserve that after the way they already treated SuperS. Dream and Stars finally getting accurate adaptations were the main reasons I supporter Crystal for this long in spite of all the problems with it. I doubt they'll make them as short as the original Sailor Moon movies, but even the longest Digimon Tri movie was only 101 minutes and I'm not sure if that would be long enough to tell the entire story properly if they made both movies 101 minutes each.
I just wish we have something . By this rate, I will have a book publisher. Move out of my parents . Before we even get a trailer
 

Neon Genesis

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#91
At this point I'm just focusing on finishing up collecting the rest of the 90s anime and I might get the Eternal Edition of the manga if that ever comes out. I already own all of the manga so I can read the Dream arc whenever I want. If more Crystal ever comes out then great, but at this point I'm just retiring from putting all my fandom into Crystal anymore.
 

Crystal Moon

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#92
I just hope we’re not running into a situation like the Rose of Versailles anime film (for those who don’t know, Toei announced & showed a teaser trailer for the film in 2007 and it was delayed until 2009 and then cancelled).
Yeah, I used to be in the same afraidness in 2014... but I'm glad that they released Crystal after all.
About ROV, they announced a trailer that you can say the characters came from the manga. I was dreaming about the day seeing Antoinette facing the guillotine but... :angry::angry::angry:
 
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Seira Hazuki

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Do you think they will mix the story of 4 inners into 1 part? (They will happen at the same time...)
If it is, that would stray from the original purpose. :huh::huh::huh:
I think it’s possible to have Ami, Rei and Mako to gain their power ups at the same time while still statying faithful to the manga. I actually wrote a treatment last year on how I’d like the story to play out:

Spoiler: show

Part I begins with a shot of the Sun slowly being eclipsed by the new moon. In the background we hear a narration by Chibiusa of her letter to NQS announcing that she’s going to return to the 30th Century. We see a quick montage of the finale of the Death Busters arc – Saturn defeating Pharaoh 90, Usagi as Neo Queen Serenity reviving the planet, baby Hotaru, the girls in their high school uniforms, etc. Once the Sun is completely eclipsed, we cut to Usagi and Chibiusa who hear the sound of a bell. They turn around and see Pegasus who calls out to them and then vanishes.
Cut to Ami, Rei, Makoto and Minako also watching the eclipse and discussing their own dreams.
While Usagi and Chibiusa have a (comical) fight over whom Pegasus was referring to as “maiden,” Mamoru says he also saw Pegasus. Moreover, a strange ship with haunting circus music playing descends down into Juuban.
With all of the crowds in the park, Mamoru thinks it’s impossible for Chibiusa to go back to the 30th Century. Suddenly, a colorful flier floating in the wind gets stuck onto Usagi’s face. It says “Dead Moon Circus” Grand Opening.
TITLE: Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon Crystal the Movie – Part I: Eclipse Dream
Opening Credits:
The opening credits is a montage similar to the ‘90s Sailor Moon movies. A new catchy song plays in the background while Usagi, Chibiusa and Mamoru look around the Dead Moon Circus shops. We see Ami and the others at the shopping district too, Rei peers suspiciously at everything, while Minako and Makoto goof off. The OP ends with Mamoru buying the Kaleidoscopes for Chibiusa and Usagi.
After the credits, we go straight to Mamoru’s apartment. This scene plays out exactly like in the manga. Usagi and Chibiusa argue whether it’s better being a child or being an adult. Chibiusa tells a story about the new moon. Blah blah blah.
We get a quick introduction of the Dead Moon villains and the Amazones Quartet.
Chibiusa dreams about meeting Pegasus and flying over Juuban and notices that the part occupied by the circus is abnormally pitch black. She wakes up and decides to leave for the 30th Century on her own.
After Chibiusa realizes her space-time key does not work, a tiger escapes the Dead Moon Circus and becomes possessed by the Lemures and attacks civilians in Juuban.
Usagi and Chibiusa transform into Super Sailor Moon/Chibimoon without the grails and it’s gorgeous and animated by Shida. Chibiusa summons Pegasus with her bell and he transforms their kaleidoscopes into weapons. They use “Moon Gorgeous Meditation” – which is beautifully animated taking some cues from the original ‘90s anime, but with brand new choreography and just the two girls flying around with lots of colors. The attack drives out the Lemures and heals the tiger, but suddenly a blue orb surrounds the animal and floats away.
During this time, Mamoru appeared as Tuxedo Kamen but feels a pain in his chest.
PallaPalla then suddenly uses her orb to switch Usagi and Chibiusa’s ages.
The next few scenes play out almost exactly like the manga. Everyone meets Ami’s mom at the hospital. Teen!Chibiusa goes back to Usagi’s house (I don’t know if I’d want Ikuko to appear in this movie considering her VA recently passed away). She talks with Pegasus who reveals a curse has been placed on her. Chibi-Usagi stays with Mamoru who is ill in bed. Chibiusa goes back to Mamoru’s apartment, but decides to not interrupt their “moment” and talks with Diana at the swing.
This is where the film starts to depart with the manga’s sequence of events.
After we get that scene with teen!Chibiusa on a swing, Lemures appear and start attacking random civilians. Pegasus leaps out of Mamoru’s mirror (just like in the manga) only this time he lets Mamoru and Usagi know that the enemy is attacking once again. Usagi finds Chibiusa and they transform together (no stock footage this time as their ages were switched) which reverses PallaPalla’s spell. Sailor Moon uses “Moon Gorgeous Meditation” and defeats the Lemures.
Chibi Moon then realizes that Usagi is the maiden Pegasus is searching for and runs off crying until Pegasus kisses her and transforms into Helios.
Back at the Circus, Zirconia chides the Quartet for failing and mentions Queen Nehellenia. Devising a new plan, the quartet use their orbs to transform a fish, a hawk, and the tiger that was previously defeated by Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon into Fisheye, Hawk’s Eye and Tiger’s Eye respectively.
That night, Chibiusa thinks about her encounter with Pegasus and her kiss with Helios. Usagi asks if she wants to visit Mamoru’s apartment, but Chibiusa declines… Much to Usagi’s shock. Chibiusa decides that she’s going to ask Makoto advice the next day.
The next half of the film switches gears from focusing on Chibiusa to the Inners.
The girls hang out after school and discuss the Dead Moon Circus. Rei is reading a book on shrine management. The cats appear and announce that they all are going to investigate the Dead Moon Circus tomorrow. The girls then part ways.
Makoto bumps into Chibiusa on her to way to her apartment and they decide to make dinner together. Visiting the grocery story, they meet Hawk’s Eye who is disguised as a female merchant looking for exotic spices. Hawk’s Eye reveals they own a herb shop located within the Dead Moon Circus and they are doing market research. They give Makoto “Amazon stone rings” as a present, telling her to come visit their shop anytime. Outside of the supermarket, Makoto, while wearing one of the rings, thinks about her dream of opening her own store and her “secret” dream of being just like Haruka and Michiru.
Cut to the Hikawa Shrine, the sun is setting and Rei is closing shop. Rei sees a broken piece of arrow and we get a flashback of her at archery club and not being able to focus. She plays fetch with Phobos and Deimos with the broken arrow. Flashback to Rei meeting Phobos and Deimos as a young child. (Note: I’d like to see Grandfather Hino in this scene, but without him appearing in Crystal S1, I have a feeling he’s going to be cut out.).
Night time, and we’re now at Ami’s apartment. She is researching the Dead Moon Circus on her computer thinks about Setsuna. Ami’s mom appears and she gives her a postcard from her father which has a picture of an exotic fish.
I think you guys see what I’m doing here… I’ve basically rearranged all of the scenes from the Inners’ chapters.
That night, Chibiusa stops by Mamoru’s apartment after dinner and gives her one of the rings she got from Hawk’s Eye.
Chibiusa runs into Usagi outside of his apartment. Usagi tells Chibiusa that she’s concerned about Mamoru –flashback to Usagi talking to Mamoru who acts a bit strangely towards her and Usagi noticing blood on her hand. Usagi doesn’t want to bother him as he’s trying to get rest and get better.
At the circus, Fisheye, Hawk’s Eye and Tiger’s Eye sit at a bar together and examine photos of Ami, Rei and Makoto as an homage to the ‘90s anime.
The next day, Usagi, Chibiusa, Ami, Rei, Makoto and Minako (w/o Mamoru) go to the Dead Moon Circus to investigate. They split up. Usagi, Chibiusa and Minako go to see the performance together. Ami goes to an aquarium, Rei visits the mirror house and Makoto decides on meeting Hawk’s Eye at the herb shop.
Usagi, Chibiusa and Minako are in a trance while watching the Quartet perform.
While at the aquarium, Ami notices an an exotic fish looks exactly like the one on the postcard her father sent her. Suddenly, the reflections of the glass starts to show illusions of her mom with another man and then Usagi, Mamoru and Chibiusa together, claiming they don’t need anyone else. The glass shatters as the fish transforms into Fisheye and water floods the place, swallowing up Ami.
In the mirror house, Rei sees an illusion of herself as a child. This scene plays out just like the manga out with minimal differences (Except Tiger’s Eye does not turn back into a tiger). Phobos and Deimos circle above the tent.
Makoto visits the herb shop and meets with Hawk’s Eye. Hawk’s Eye makes tea for Mako, and under the influence of the ring she reveals to Hawk’s Eye that she feels like she’s been putting off her dream. Hawk’s Eye reveals his true form and attacks Mako-chan. I think everyone’s see the pattern here….
Just when the Trio seems to have the upper hand with Ami, Rei and Makoto - their respective Sailor Power Guardians (Phobos and Deimos for Rei) appear to save them. Each of the Sailor Power Guardians (and the human crows) give the girls a pep talk and their Sailor Crystals appear almost simultaneously. Ami, Rei and Makoto shout out their transformation via split screen and we get brand new beautiful transformations for each of them.
After transforming, the Trio summon the girls into some dark dimension for a 3 vs. 3 fight. We get an incredibly dynamic fight scene where the girls use their old attacks all in real-time, but despite their power the Trio still have an advantage. The three then remember the Outers and hear their voices. Mercury summons her harp and uses ‘Mercury Aqua Mirage’ to freeze Fish Eye. Mars fires her arrow and impales Tiger’s Eye and Jupiter using her Oak Leaves throws bolts of thunder at Hawk’s Eye. The animation of the new attacks are like a blend between stock and real-time. The trio are annihilated in a big explosion with Mercury, Mars and Jupiter in some kind of badass pose.
The movie then covers the rest of Jupiter & Venus dream.
 
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magic713

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#94
I think it’s possible to have Ami, Rei and Mako to gain their power ups at the same time while still statying faithful to the manga.
I think that they will get their power ups at different times, like in the manga. HOWEVER, I think the Outers' story/Act will run side-by-side with the Inner Acts. So instead of flashbacks from the Outers' view, the story will be concurrent with the other Senshi. And most of this will cover the first film.
 

Seira Hazuki

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I think that they will get their power ups at different times, like in the manga. HOWEVER, I think the Outers' story/Act will run side-by-side with the Inner Acts. So instead of flashbacks from the Outers' view, the story will be concurrent with the other Senshi. And most of this will cover the first film.
I doubt this for two reasons:
A) the first half of Dream is already a lot to adapt into one movie, so adding New Soldiers Dream to Part 1 would mean a lot more scenes need to be cut.
B) They’d probably save the Outers for Part 2 anyway to drum up excitement.
 

flockapowpow

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#96
Sailor Moon fans are accustomed to waiting for a looong time - that's already become one of their characteristic features. :lol:
This is so true, lol. Yet somehow I’m always in shock at how long we have to wait!! And without any proper development updates either! It’s honestly a wonder that this franchise retains such a large fanbase.
 

Rika-Chicchi

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This is so true, lol. Yet somehow I’m always in shock at how long we have to wait!! And without any proper development updates either! It’s honestly a wonder that this franchise retains such a large fanbase.
Because the fanbase is always being able to wait, wait, & wait, h/e long it is. :P

Maybe Toei knows that too well, too. P-:
 
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I wonder what made them go along with a movie and does Naoko have any say on what goes in and out of the movie? Oiii..I mean if they cancel it...I don't understand how they could do such a thing right at the seasons that really needed to be adapted properly on screen against their anime parts.

If anything, Season 1 and 2 should have been movies and the rest TV series...lol
 

Crystal Moon

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I think that they will get their power ups at different times, like in the manga. HOWEVER, I think the Outers' story/Act will run side-by-side with the Inner Acts. So instead of flashbacks from the Outers' view, the story will be concurrent with the other Senshi. And most of this will cover the first film.
Fitting the Outer-part with Inner-part is 10 times more difficult...

I wonder what made them go along with a movie and does Naoko have any say on what goes in and out of the movie? Oiii..I mean if they cancel it...I don't understand how they could do such a thing right at the seasons that really needed to be adapted properly on screen against their anime parts.

If anything, Season 1 and 2 should have been movies and the rest TV series...lol
Do you think they really INTENDED to do Crystal as movie since act 1? (Because they aired the first episodes of each seasons on big screen...)
 
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John

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At this point I'm just focusing on finishing up collecting the rest of the 90s anime and I might get the Eternal Edition of the manga if that ever comes out. I already own all of the manga so I can read the Dream arc whenever I want. If more Crystal ever comes out then great, but at this point I'm just retiring from putting all my fandom into Crystal anymore.
As much as I like(d) Crystal, I agree with you. I'll watch the Dream movies when they're out but I think we've all learned not to check the Internet daily for Crystal news since around 2014, lmao. I'm looking forward to seeing Dream and hopefully Stars, but in the meantime, I'm going to look forward to other aspects of the SM franchise. It just seems pointless to focus on Crystal as fans right now -- the first three seasons are out, we know more of the story is coming, news will be out when it's out. Like Rika said, this fandom is used to waiting.