Why is this Reboot so censored?!

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HeartWarrior

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Between the lack of violence and darkness with the storyline... The 90s anime was even darker than the Reboot. Which I'm really glad that the original anime exists for this reason. Especially if for an anime targeted for all ages pretty much, I'm really surprised by the amount of censorship it actually has. Hoping we have a way better reboot anime series in the future though. Such a beloved series worldwide and within Japan and wish they could have done things right from the beginning. Especially with the constant character design changes. Eternal/Cosmos proves to be the best though in my overall opinion.
 
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Censorship laws I assume would be the case of it was airing on TV but the original was an ONA, and Eternal was a movie.

There's got to be some miscommunication somewhere in production and between the "owners" of the franchise. It really doesn't make any sense how a 30 year old franchise can't convey the show like it was supposed to be without bouncing all over the place. Someone wants this and someone wants that...
 

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Because they're catering to international fans.

Just like Dragon Ball Super having saliva coming out the characters mouths instead of blood while One Piece, which airs on the same hour, has all the blood.
 
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Because they're catering to international fans.

Just like Dragon Ball Super having saliva coming out the characters mouths instead of blood while One Piece, which airs on the same hour, has all the blood.
This and the standards of TV censorship has changed over time. Junichi Sato even stated if they “made Sailor Moon now” they wouldn’t be able to show nudity and such.
 

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Because they're catering to international fans.

Just like Dragon Ball Super having saliva coming out the characters mouths instead of blood while One Piece, which airs on the same hour, has all the blood.
This and the standards of TV censorship has changed over time. Junichi Sato even stated if they “made Sailor Moon now” they wouldn’t be able to show nudity and such.
In the recent decades, the legal environment in Japan has become more & more aligned w/ that in the West as globalization proceeds - many things legal in the past have now become illegal in the country.
 

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This and the standards of TV censorship has changed over time. Junichi Sato even stated if they “made Sailor Moon now” they wouldn’t be able to show nudity and such.
They went a bit too overboard with sexualizing characters back then IMO.
And I don't want to see another reboot. Even if it has Studio Ghibli involved. I don't want the same story getting told 3 times.
If we can't have new stories, then let the franchise die.
 
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I think Naoko Takeuchi and Toei are more and more embracing the glittery, sparkly side of Magical Girls over the violence and dark themes (even though in Precure they get to actually fight more than in Sailor Moon, oddly enough).
Naoko seems more interested in marketing the girls as Disney Princesses she can draw over and over.
We never get new villain art or really even any new Mamoru art, from her.
I'm kind of surprised she hasn't scrubbed the manga of any darker stuff like all the skulls and death and gore. I just feel she is partially behind the censoring herself, though I hope I'm wrong.
 
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I think Naoko Takeuchi and Toei are more and more embracing the glittery, sparkly side of Magical Girls over the violence and dark themes (even though in Precure they get to actually fight more than in Sailor Moon, oddly enough).
Naoko seems more interested in marketing the girls as Disney Princesses she can draw over and over.
We never get new villain art or really even any new Mamoru art, from her.
I'm kind of surprised she hasn't scrubbed the manga of any darker stuff like all the skulls and death and gore. I just feel she is partially behind the censoring herself, though I hope I'm wrong.
Which I find it really surprising since when she started, she had always wanted darker themes for the manga. That's where the 90s anime succeeds & not in Crystal/Movies. Too much censorship for something targeted all age groups including teens/adults.
 

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I said recently here that fans are often hypocritical when comparing Toei's staff to Naoko when it comes to sexualizing, but it's a fact they didn't do it at the same extent.
Takeuchi drew provocative images of Usagi just to get a reaction from the Nakayoshi staff. She also made implications of Usagi and Mamoru's sex life that wasn't in the anime. I don't think we even see Usagi and Mamoru share a bed in the anime.
 
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I think Naoko Takeuchi and Toei are more and more embracing the glittery, sparkly side of Magical Girls over the violence and dark themes (even though in Precure they get to actually fight more than in Sailor Moon, oddly enough).
Naoko seems more interested in marketing the girls as Disney Princesses she can draw over and over.
We never get new villain art or really even any new Mamoru art, from her.
I'm kind of surprised she hasn't scrubbed the manga of any darker stuff like all the skulls and death and gore. I just feel she is partially behind the censoring herself, though I hope I'm wrong.
Which is a shame. Sure we don't need something bloody or graphic but maybe it's a side she is ashamed of a little. She did mention I think liking Devilman a little or something.

I think she plays a role in the overall decisions of the show but it depends on the production. Toei Animation and whoever else still have their say on some things, and they all have to come to some agreements based on whatever is in that contract probably.but I think a lot of what is going on now is mostly her.

I noticed that the copyright or names listed on copyright changes on different projects.

Some say: Naoko Takeuchi and PNP
Some say: Naoko Takeuchi/PNP/Kondansha
Some say: Naoko Takeuchi/Kondansha/Toei Animation, etc..


I noticed both Eternal and Cosmos movies only say:
Naoko Takeuchi / PNP /Movie version "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Cosmos" Production Committee.

There is no mention of Toei Animation anywhere on the movie copyright website disclaimer unlike other movies made exclusively by them like Pretty Cure or Dragon Ball. I'm not for certain but is the Toei Logo on any of the trailers for the movie like they usually were for the Crystal TV series?.. I couldn't see them missing an opportunity to splatter their name across the screen unless their involvement is minimal (or contractual).

So is it that Toei doesn't care or is it their involvement is rather minimal since Naoko (PNP) is the Chief Supervisor over everything? Why is Studying DEEN still involved if Kon is no longer on the project? I thought she was a reason for DEEN lending a hand?

Of course like you I'm just guessing... because the movies won't be out anytime soon and I need someone to talk about..lol
 
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Takeuchi drew provocative images of Usagi just to get a reaction from the Nakayoshi staff.
Oh! I have those images saved on to my PC! Were those images the ones with Usagi in lingerie? Plus, she's topless in one so we see her nipple.
 

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I said recently here that fans are often hypocritical when comparing Toei's staff to Naoko when it comes to sexualizing, but it's a fact they didn't do it at the same extent.
Some of what Naoko did was objectively worse. Tuxedo Mask perving on the panty shots of Naru’s twin elementary school little sisters anyone?


Naoko seems more interested in marketing the girls as Disney Princesses she can draw over and over. We never get new villain art or really even any new Mamoru art, from her.
Naoko has always preferred drawing beautiful girls over men (she’s said it herself) even if that man happens to be her personal fave and “ideal.” lol

As far as the villains go I don’t know what you were expecting considering barely any of them were even relevant in the Manga/Crystal/Naoko’s “vision” to begin with. The vast majority are essentially just MOTD.
 
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I noticed that the copyright or names listed on copyright changes on different projects.

Some say: Naoko Takeuchi and PNP
Some say: Naoko Takeuchi/PNP/Kondansha
Some say: Naoko Takeuchi/Kondansha/Toei Animation, etc..


I noticed both Eternal and Cosmos movies only say:
Naoko Takeuchi / PNP /Movie version "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Cosmos" Production Committee.

There is no mention of Toei Animation anywhere on the movie copyright website disclaimer unlike other movies made exclusively by them like Pretty Cure or Dragon Ball. I'm not for certain but is the Toei Logo on any of the trailers for the movie like they usually were for the Crystal TV series?.. I couldn't see them missing an opportunity to splatter their name across the screen unless their involvement is minimal (or contractual).

So is it that Toei doesn't care or is it their involvement is rather minimal since Naoko (PNP) is the Chief Supervisor over everything? Why is Studying DEEN still involved if Kon is no longer on the project? I thought she was a reason for DEEN lending a hand?

Of course like you I'm just guessing... because the movies won't be out anytime soon and I need someone to talk about..lol
I remember that before Eternal came out and we were getting teasers with low quality animation, I mentioned Toei probably wasn't getting much money from this reboot compared to Naoko, and thought wasn't worth investing on its animation. Some people got really mad at me.
Your observation sums up everything LOL But we see Toei's logo before the trailer for Cosmos.
 

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I noticed that the copyright or names listed on copyright changes on different projects.

Some say: Naoko Takeuchi and PNP
Some say: Naoko Takeuchi/PNP/Kondansha
Some say: Naoko Takeuchi/Kondansha/Toei Animation, etc..


I noticed both Eternal and Cosmos movies only say:
Naoko Takeuchi / PNP /Movie version "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Cosmos" Production Committee.

There is no mention of Toei Animation anywhere on the movie copyright website disclaimer unlike other movies made exclusively by them like Pretty Cure or Dragon Ball. I'm not for certain but is the Toei Logo on any of the trailers for the movie like they usually were for the Crystal TV series?.. I couldn't see them missing an opportunity to splatter their name across the screen unless their involvement is minimal (or contractual).
They're listed under the production committee

Crystal seasons 1-3




Kodansha
Toei Animation

Eternal Production Committee




Kodansha
Toei Animation
Toei Company (listed solely as Toei)
Bandai
King Records
Kinoshita Group
Asahi Shimbun Company

That last one is the main parent company of TV Asahi, the network that aired the 90s anime. I assume they're involved because of the SuperS song covers since the credits list TV Asahi Music under the songs.


 

Rika-Chicchi

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They went a bit too overboard with sexualizing characters back then IMO.
Whether that's "overboard" depends on space & time, & is a relative thing - what seen as "overboard" in one society or period can be seen as not being so in another society or period. Hence it all depends on where & when you are, & there's no absolute, universal standard for that. :)
 
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Whether that's "overboard" depends on space & time, & is a relative thing - what seen as "overboard" in one society or period can be seen as not being so in another society or period. Hence it all depends on where & when you are, & there's no absolute, universal standard for that. :)
That's very true. And in times when people would have fainted at the sight of a woman's ankle they were hanging nude paintings up.
I'm sure there are things we're doing now that in 10 or 100 years will be called out as horrible, even though we don't even notice it just now.